Vampire story

[loquere]

Thinking about writing a vampir story.

As part of the rules for turning into a vampire, does a newly turned vampire need to feed on human blood to finalise the process.


http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=851581

[Stella_Omega]

Sure, if you want to write it that way... Could be interesting.

Like if they didn't want to be a vampire, (for reasons to be sorted out) could they hold off from drinking blood? What would they be at that stage? Could they substitute cum for blood, thereby feeding themselves (and driving the porn,) but not fully finalising? And why would they want to avoid that?

[Bramblethorn]

Originally Posted by loquere

Thinking about writing a vampir story.

As part of the rules for turning into a vampire, does a newly turned vampire need to feed on human blood to finalise the process.

It varies depending on the author. I remember "Innocent Blood" had vampires who only attained full power once they'd fed, lots of other versions don't have that requirement. Pick whichever works best for you!

[PennLady]

Originally Posted by loquere

Thinking about writing a vampir story.

As part of the rules for turning into a vampire, does a newly turned vampire need to feed on human blood to finalise the process.

A vampire doesn't need to do anything that you don't want the vampire to do. I've read various vampire stories and there are different ways that authors invent for any kind of "turning." Feel free to use, adapt or invent your own. I've read the following:

* The vampire must bite the other person, nearly drain their blood, then feed the other person from the vampire's own blood via that person drinking from the vampire, often the wrist. (This seems pretty traditional and common.)

* A virus causes a person to be a vampire. This can have a few sub-sections -- an infected person can bite and infect another; an infected person can bite and not infect another b/c they can control whether they release the virus or not into the other person.

* A vampire bites a person, drinks their blood, then makes the person bite the vampire, drink blood, then a few days must pass before the "transformation" is complete.

In a story I wrote, the vampire wanted to turn a woman who was dying, but was low on blood himself. He bit and took blood from a third party, then let the woman drink from his wrist, so the vampire never bit the woman himself.

In another story, I went the traditional vampire bites/shares blood route, but I added in a sort of vampire infancy period, where the vampires had to be watched and controlled much like small children, until their mind caught up to the all the changes.

JazCullen has vampires in her stories, and she went the more biological route, where the vampires had to intentionally turn their "victims." They had, IIRC, to bring their person to the brink of death, then let them feed so the vampire blood would heal them.

Whatever you do, just be consistent.

[loquere]

I don't want to write every thing again from the idea thread so here it is. I changed it in the second post, the first post is more orgy the second is more romantic no orgy. Rick Santorum told me to!
http://forum.literotica.com/showthread.php?t=851581

[sethp]

Originally Posted by loquere

Thinking about writing a vampir story.

As part of the rules for turning into a vampire, does a newly turned vampire need to feed on human blood to finalise the process.

That's the way I see it. I like the way the Anita Blake series handles the whole vampire mythology.

[Stella_Omega]

Originally Posted by PennLady

A vampire doesn't need to do anything that you don't want the vampire to do. I've read various vampire stories and there are different ways that authors invent for any kind of "turning." Feel free to use, adapt or invent your own. I've read the following:

* The vampire must bite the other person, nearly drain their blood, then feed the other person from the vampire's own blood via that person drinking from the vampire, often the wrist. (This seems pretty traditional and common.)

* A virus causes a person to be a vampire. This can have a few sub-sections -- an infected person can bite and infect another; an infected person can bite and not infect another b/c they can control whether they release the virus or not into the other person.

* A vampire bites a person, drinks their blood, then makes the person bite the vampire, drink blood, then a few days must pass before the "transformation" is complete.

In a story I wrote, the vampire wanted to turn a woman who was dying, but was low on blood himself. He bit and took blood from a third party, then let the woman drink from his wrist, so the vampire never bit the woman himself.

In another story, I went the traditional vampire bites/shares blood route, but I added in a sort of vampire infancy period, where the vampires had to be watched and controlled much like small children, until their mind caught up to the all the changes.

JazCullen has vampires in her stories, and she went the more biological route, where the vampires had to intentionally turn their "victims." They had, IIRC, to bring their person to the brink of death, then let them feed so the vampire blood would heal them.

Whatever you do, just be consistent.

The bolded is very popular as a means to D/s and power exchange... *slurp*

[PennLady]

Originally Posted by Stella_Omega

The bolded is very popular as a means to D/s and power exchange... *slurp*

I can see that, but I wasn't thinking that way.

[NaokoSmith]

I want it to be a safe sex vampire story.

[JAMESBJOHNSON]

I use psychic vampires. Vampires arent limited to blood suckers and the night-shift, some have day jobs, and some deplete psychic energy. I own all kinds of monster reference books for my horror writing.

[loquere]

Originally Posted by NaokoSmith

I want it to be a safe sex vampire story.

-Well that's another thing? Can condoms work on them? Two vampires fucking each other?
-Their bodies are cold does it warm up during sex. Or is her pussy going to be freezing? His dick freezing? Remember it's too vampires, no human in the mix.

-Can they choose to eat human food and survive?

[Ironiclaconic]

Vampires don't exist, so asking what they do is an exercise in philosophy. As the writer, they can do whatever you want them to do. There are three basic vampire templates, however.

1) Dracula. Evil. Scared of crosses, holy water, killed with stakes through heart. Created by dying of a vampire's bite.

2) Anne Rice. Amoral, religious stuff doesn't work. Powers less supernatural. Created by exchange of blood before death.

3) Viral. Vampirism is a disease where victims are strong, allergic to sunlight, drink blood, and spread disease via a bite.

My advice is to choose your template, tweak as you see fit, and have some sort of early expository scenes where the rules are conveyed to to the reader. This is usually done by a veteran vamp training in a fledgling, or having the heroes figure it out by trial and error.

Best vampire books for anyone looking to take a stab at the genre: Dracula, I am Legend, Salem's Lot, Interview with the Vampire, Fevre Dream, Vampire Lestat, Bloodsucking Fiends: A Love Story. Probably Twilight as well if you are reading for genre understanding rather than quality.

I am a firm believer that the more people who read Christopher Moore's Bloodsucking Fiends series, the better the world will be.

[NaokoSmith]

Originally Posted by loquere

-Well that's another thing? Can condoms work on them? Two vampires fucking each other?
-Their bodies are cold does it warm up during sex. Or is her pussy going to be freezing? His dick freezing? Remember it's too vampires, no human in the mix.

-Can they choose to eat human food and survive?

Unfortunately ... vampires drink blood. So I think safeness for vampires is probably not an option! Even harder than putting a condom on a werewolf ROFLOL. But do consider it! I would be so thrilled. Automatic 5 stars, I promise.

And a

[Tio_Narratore]

Originally Posted by NaokoSmith

I want it to be a safe sex vampire story.

Originally Posted by loquere

-Well that's another thing? Can condoms work on them? Two vampires fucking each other?
-Their bodies are cold does it warm up during sex. Or is her pussy going to be freezing? His dick freezing? Remember it's too vampires, no human in the mix.

-Can they choose to eat human food and survive?

Originally Posted by NaokoSmith

Unfortunately ... vampires drink blood. So I think safeness for vampires is probably not an option! Even harder than putting a condom on a werewolf ROFLOL. But do consider it! I would be so thrilled. Automatic 5 stars, I promise.

And a

Safe from what? Reproduction? Lacking blood flow, I don't think unwanted pregnancy is an issue. STDs - again, no blood flow. Besides they are already dead. What's left? Unsightly herpes outbreaks?
Now, if they used condoms along with the new KY that heats up, we might have a pseudo-safe-sex-scenario going for them...

[PennLady]

Originally Posted by loquere

-Well that's another thing? Can condoms work on them? Two vampires fucking each other?
-Their bodies are cold does it warm up during sex. Or is her pussy going to be freezing? His dick freezing? Remember it's too vampires, no human in the mix.

-Can they choose to eat human food and survive?

They can do whatever you want them to do. Do you want them to be able to get pregnant or not? It doesn't matter, just whatever works for you, and make your logic consistent.

Their bodies don't have to be cold. Again, in various stories I've seen:

* vampires that are always cold
* vampires that warm up after they drink/feed
* vampires that are warm all the time (usually the "viral" route, I think)
* vampires having sex with humans; no pregnancy issues
* vampires having sex with vampires; no pregnancy issues
* vampires having sex with humans; woman gets pregnant
* vampires having sex with vampires; female vampire gets pregnant
* vampires having sex with weres; female gets pregnant
* vampires that eat food but get no benefit from it
* vampires that eat food and get minimal benefit
* vampires that do not eat food
* vampires that can be in the sun
* vampires that can't be in the sun
* vampires that can be in the sun if they are old enough, i.e., have been a vampire long enough (I've done that)
* vampires that must "sleep" during the day; they will just drop "dead" as morning comes, so they must get to a safe place during daylight hours
* vampires that can function at any time of day but must avoid sunlight
* vampires that cast reflections
* vampires that don't reflections
* vampires that can survive contact with religious artifacts or items (holy water, crosses, etc.)
* vampires that cannot do the above

As IronicLaconic says, this is all just an exercise in philosophy and discussion. Vampires do not exist, so you can make them do whatever you want. You can make them adhere to the traditional "rules," or not. Whatever rules you set up, just make sure the reader knows what the rules are, and keep to the rules.

I think the only rule that comes close to being nonnegotiable is drinking blood. But only close -- you could have a vampire that feeds on something else. So perhaps it's the feeding that makes the character a vampire, no matter what it needs to feed on.

[NaokoSmith]

Originally Posted by PennLady

They can do whatever you want them to do.
...

I think the only rule that comes close to being nonnegotiable is drinking blood. But only close -- you could have a vampire that feeds on something else. So perhaps it's the feeding that makes the character a vampire, no matter what it needs to feed on.

There you are loq! Go for it. You could produce the world's first safe sex vampire story. You too could get one star reviews and 5000 downloads on Amazon, with people howling about bestiality and other people avidly rushing to read your work in consequence. ROFLOL. (Yup, this happened to my safe sex werewolf story that I churned out as a sort of bet with myself that it could be done.)

Promise of a ...

[loquere]

Originally Posted by PennLady

They can do whatever you want them to do. Do you want them to be able to get pregnant or not? It doesn't matter, just whatever works for you, and make your logic consistent.

Their bodies don't have to be cold. Again, in various stories I've seen:

* vampires that are always cold
* vampires that warm up after they drink/feed
* vampires that are warm all the time (usually the "viral" route, I think)
* vampires having sex with humans; no pregnancy issues
* vampires having sex with vampires; no pregnancy issues
* vampires having sex with humans; woman gets pregnant
* vampires having sex with vampires; female vampire gets pregnant
* vampires having sex with weres; female gets pregnant
* vampires that eat food but get no benefit from it
* vampires that eat food and get minimal benefit
* vampires that do not eat food
* vampires that can be in the sun
* vampires that can't be in the sun
* vampires that can be in the sun if they are old enough, i.e., have been a vampire long enough (I've done that)
* vampires that must "sleep" during the day; they will just drop "dead" as morning comes, so they must get to a safe place during daylight hours
* vampires that can function at any time of day but must avoid sunlight
* vampires that cast reflections
* vampires that don't reflections
* vampires that can survive contact with religious artifacts or items (holy water, crosses, etc.)
* vampires that cannot do the above

As IronicLaconic says, this is all just an exercise in philosophy and discussion. Vampires do not exist, so you can make them do whatever you want. You can make them adhere to the traditional "rules," or not. Whatever rules you set up, just make sure the reader knows what the rules are, and keep to the rules.

I think the only rule that comes close to being nonnegotiable is drinking blood. But only close -- you could have a vampire that feeds on something else. So perhaps it's the feeding that makes the character a vampire, no matter what it needs to feed on.

Thanks, if I write it in one lit pg, I'll punch it out this weekend.
-The setting as per my lit-ideas posting is a, college campus. 3 century old Vampire sorority. Blah blah The main carachter is a pre-med student whose secretly working on synthetic blood.

[loquere]

Originally Posted by NaokoSmith

There you are loq! Go for it. You could produce the world's first safe sex vampire story. You too could get one star reviews and 5000 downloads on Amazon, with people howling about bestiality and other people avidly rushing to read your work in consequence. ROFLOL. (Yup, this happened to my safe sex werewolf story that I churned out as a sort of bet with myself that it could be done.)

Promise of a ...

They used condoms?

[PennLady]

Originally Posted by loquere

Thanks, if I write it in one lit pg, I'll punch it out this weekend.
-The setting as per my lit-ideas posting is a, college campus. 3 century old Vampire sorority. Blah blah The main carachter is a pre-med student whose secretly working on synthetic blood.

300 years of being vampires and they are still in college? Damn, that's a big tuition bill.

Sorry -- I once read an article about the Twilight books that observed that here you have vampires that are in the hundreds of years old, and they're still in high school? I'm not sure college is much better, but that's just my opinion, and good luck to you.

[Bramblethorn]

Originally Posted by NaokoSmith

I want it to be a safe sex vampire story.

I've seen one vampire movie where Dracula put condoms on his fangs.

It was... not a very good movie.

[Bramblethorn]

Originally Posted by Ironiclaconic

Vampires don't exist, so asking what they do is an exercise in philosophy. As the writer, they can do whatever you want them to do. There are three basic vampire templates, however.

A couple of others:

- Old-school European vampires: more of the "lethal monster", much less interested in talking to their victims.

- Chinese vampires: they hop (due to rigor mortis), long fingernails and eyebrows, I think they have weird obsessive-compulsive issues.

- Psychic: draining life-force rather than physical blood.

- Deluded; see Nick Cage in "Vampire's Kiss" for a creepy example.

Originally Posted by Ironiclaconic

1) Dracula. Evil. Scared of crosses, holy water, killed with stakes through heart. Created by dying of a vampire's bite.

Although Dracula himself seems to have been a self-made vampire.

Originally Posted by Ironiclaconic

Best vampire books for anyone looking to take a stab at the genre: Dracula, I am Legend, Salem's Lot, Interview with the Vampire, Fevre Dream, Vampire Lestat, Bloodsucking Fiends: A Love Story. Probably Twilight as well if you are reading for genre understanding rather than quality.

I'd also recommend at least the first Anno-Dracula novel.

Originally Posted by Tio_Narratore

Safe from what? Reproduction? Lacking blood flow, I don't think unwanted pregnancy is an issue.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhampir

And given how much some vampires squirt blood when staked, they probably do have enough pressure to cause blood flow.

[sr71plt]

Originally Posted by Bramblethorn

I've seen one vampire movie where Dracula put condoms on his fangs.

It was... not a very good movie.

I might spend much of the rest of the day laughing and imagining what Mel Brooks would have done with that in a movie version.

I haven't paid much attention to what the vampire "rules" are in constructing my own (limited number of) vampire stories.

[Stella_Omega]

Originally Posted by Bramblethorn

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhampir

And given how much some vampires squirt blood when staked, they probably do have enough pressure to cause blood flow.

The theory I've subscribe to is that, since they are dead, any sperm or ova are also dead.

Hmm. MOST viruses need the life processes of their host to survive. But not all... i wonder, which illnesses could an undead type person catch?

[Safe_Bet]

Oooops.

[Safe_Bet]

Vampires can do whatever they want... except "twinkle".

No REAL vampire twinkles. EVER!