Sub Drop?

[Stag of Oberon]

theres a little walk down memory lane.

[kayte]

Hi all, thought I'd bump this thread and put some of the details that have been posted earlier on the thread in this post.

Hope it has been a great weekend.

Originally Posted by kayte

Bumping this thread as Sub Drop, or just plain Dropping is important for people to know about.

I know that from hearing of a friend of mine who experienced an intense session with two men. She had wanted it, and the three of them arranged it and had a good time. It was not in any way a D/s event.

A few days later, one of the men involved mentioned to me that "she" the woman they had played with was all depressed.

I asked him for the details of what they all did, and for the details of what they all did to "recover", to come down from the play. It was rather intense, but nothing out of line.

They all had had time constraints, and they separated and went their seperate ways almost immediately.

After hearing the tale, the first thought I had was "she dropped". It may not have been a scene in a D/s sense, but it was intense play, and the endorphins do flow.

I told him that, and I then had to explain it to him, and that it could happen after any intense play.

I offered to contact her, and let her know what I think was happening.

It turns out, she almost immediately responded to my message to her with, "Yes!!! That is it. That is how I feel."

I explained things to her as well as I could. When and how I experienced it, and how aftercare from my Sir was so important.

She says I helped. I also suggested she make sure any other people she plays with, is aware that can happen, what they can do to make things better.

Originally Posted by kayte

Yes Black Tulip ~ I am sure that is what it was. Any intense activity that calls the endorpins out, that make you feel so good can do that. Be it sex, running, swimming all kinds of things.

Your body just responded to the lack of endorphins as they left your body. I think knowing that is what it is helps people to realize what is happening.

I know when I am with my Sir I can feel the drop while with Him after an intense scene. He holds and helps me recenter myself. But those feelings do come back after we have separated, such as the next day.

Please remember you are ok, and think about how much fun it was. And how good it will be as you continue your journey. And please remember that is what it is. It isn't a race.

If you have any questions you don't want to put here, please feel free to PM me. But then sharing things on this thread allows it to help others.

Originally Posted by kayte

Good afternoon Stag of Oberon ~ I am not a medical specialist, I do know from my Gram's symptoms and treatment that depression is in many cases caused by a chemical imbalance or change.

Sub drop is the body's reaction to the easing of the endorphins that were released, and when the "good feelings" decrease the body feels "sad". Thus a chemical change. I know in my case and in the case of many I have talked to, either here, on the phone, even in person; the knowing what can be causing that helps so much.

Perhaps it doesn't fit the scenario earlier, but it may help sometime in the future.

Have a fantastic afternoon/evening.

[kayte]

A gentle bump

[Kathykitten]

Top-drop. That is so me.

With only reading through a few posts I knew exactly that it fit me, except I'm the top. I think it bottoms in some insecurity deep down questioning whether or not she truly loves me, or simply use me when she needs to feel belonging. I know even as I type it that it is ridiculous, we are mad about each other, but the feelings don't always follow my head. It's like a bodily reaction to something that doesn't fit with what I know is reality.

After intense play I can suddenly feel desperately lonely. Does she know how much I need my girl? hm...

[kayte]

Originally Posted by Kathykitten

Top-drop. That is so me.

With only reading through a few posts I knew exactly that it fit me, except I'm the top. I think it bottoms in some insecurity deep down questioning whether or not she truly loves me, or simply use me when she needs to feel belonging. I know even as I type it that it is ridiculous, we are mad about each other, but the feelings don't always follow my head. It's like a bodily reaction to something that doesn't fit with what I know is reality.

After intense play I can suddenly feel desperately lonely. Does she know how much I need my girl? hm...

Hi Kathykitten ~ Welcome to Lit and to the thread. Yes it does so apply to tops and bottoms. I'm glad you posted. Hope all is going well for you and her.
And yes it is a body's chemical reaction and the response to the cessation of those "wonderful" chemicals that causes the drop.

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[CynMarie]

Sorry, wasn't paying attention. Doh! Nothing to see here.

[Brit_Babe]

removed

[creepish]

Originally Posted by Brit_Babe

I've only realised recently that I suffer from this and it normally happens about a week after a session. I get incredibly tearful, feel guilty and very often feel like telling Sir that we should go our seperate ways (it doesn't help that we can't always speak to each other), but after a good sleep and plenty of chocolate I usually feel better.

I think for me it's very emotional and makes me really think about life and what I want from it, getting affection from him to then going back to everyday life where I wake up with no cuddles in bed hurts me. It makes me realise that although I loved my single life I now might be ready for a proper relationship where I know and hope there will be a real future with a guy (just a shame it won't be with Sir).

Not sure about Sub Drop, but surely the emotions you are revealing here are describing any relationship based purely on short term physical fulfilment? At the end of the day you'll want, or rather some people will want, something more based on 'love' (I vommed a little bit in my mouth there), but with still the physical side too.

Some people only have, and are happy with, purely the physical side of love; others have, are happy, with just the emotional side. And some lucky bastards get both.

Most people are probably somewhere in between. Sounds like you maybe are looking to change the balance a little bit.

[Brit_Babe]

Originally Posted by creepish

Not sure about Sub Drop, but surely the emotions you are revealing here are describing any relationship based purely on short term physical fulfilment? At the end of the day you'll want, or rather some people will want, something more based on 'love' (I vommed a little bit in my mouth there), but with still the physical side too.

Some people only have, and are happy with, purely the physical side of love; others have, are happy, with just the emotional side. And some lucky bastards get both.

Most people are probably somewhere in between. Sounds like you maybe are looking to change the balance a little bit.

You know what, I think you're spot on there!

(I also want to be one of the lucky bastards who gets both sides)

[kayte]

A New Years' Bump!

[morefreebound]

Originally Posted by WillowPuss

I have not experienced sub drop ... and, from the descriptions of it, hope I never do.

What I have found though ... after an intence (for us) period of play, I go really cold. Even if the room is warm .. I find myself feeling cold and shivery.

Is this normal? Do others have this? (Or am I just really odd?)

Oh yes, I have the same type of reaction, sometimes even when it's milder play.

Then again, could be that the bonus room where we typically play is super cold all the time.

[lostandfound197]

Originally Posted by Kathykitten

Top-drop. That is so me.

With only reading through a few posts I knew exactly that it fit me, except I'm the top. I think it bottoms in some insecurity deep down questioning whether or not she truly loves me, or simply use me when she needs to feel belonging. I know even as I type it that it is ridiculous, we are mad about each other, but the feelings don't always follow my head. It's like a bodily reaction to something that doesn't fit with what I know is reality.

After intense play I can suddenly feel desperately lonely. Does she know how much I need my girl? hm...

Interesting