dr_mabeuse
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Are they the same? What's the difference?
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My gut response is:
Shame is an internally motivated state in which the person inflicts this feeling on him/herself. Whereas, humiliation is externally motivated...caused by someone else who intentionally inflicts the feeling on the other person.
Are they the same? What's the difference?
VM
Both can be either, but humilty tends to be imposed rather than self-inflicted. Alfred Nobel gave money to a countess whose family had lost its wealth. She was a clerk or something when he met her. Her boyfriend wouldnt marry her because of her poverty. So Nobel gave her some money, she got married, and all was well. Humble no more.
Are they the same? What's the difference?
Humiliation is when someone knows your shame.
sr17plt said:I would use humiliation as deeper and more intense than shame. Just how I would rank them if I was choosing a word in writing. I also think of shame as largely personal and humiliation as beyond the personal--more of a judgment by others.
I don't know. I think of this example: Someone falls with their tray in a high school cafeteria. They're humiliated but they're not shamed.
On the other hand, a close friend sees where they've practiced writing their name using the last name of a boy they like in their notebook. They're shamed but they're not necessarily humiliated.
i dunno. Is that really being shamed? I think of shame as stronger than that. I'd call what you describe as being embarrassed at the most.
I don't know. I think of this example: Someone falls with their tray in a high school cafeteria. They're humiliated but they're not shamed.
On the other hand, a close friend sees where they've practiced writing their name using the last name of a boy they like in their notebook. They're shamed but they're not necessarily humiliated.
I don't know. I think of this example: Someone falls with their tray in a high school cafeteria. They're humiliated but they're not shamed.
You can be alone and feel shame, but humiliation requires others present?
My husband did something so unbelievable stupid this morning, that I am simply reeling. He is certainly ashamed of himself-- but I wouldn't humiliate him about it.