These women are full of crap.

I thought, in America, it was innocent until proven guilty, but that is no longer the case anymore with this sexual misconduct hysteria. Why are people automatically believing these women and destroying these men’s careers? Maybe, on the rare occasion, one of these women could be telling the truth – but most of these women seem hungry for fame and/or money.

Now, Matt Lauer, Charlie Rose and countless other men are losing their jobs because of these conniving women. Also, especially with someone like Charlie Rose, something that could’ve been accepted decades ago is not accepted today, such as a smack on the butt. If you were smacked on the butt by Matt Lauer twenty years ago, get over it. That’s not sexual misconduct.

As if our country wasn’t divisive enough, it’s now getting to be a thicker line between men and women because these women love to play the victim role – and everyone is rallying to their side. And it’s disgusting. If all these claims were true, why didn’t they say something when they first happened instead of waiting till now? I don’t believe any of it.

AnAmericanDarling said:

I thought, in America, it was innocent until proven guilty, but that is no longer the case anymore with this sexual misconduct hysteria. Why are people automatically believing these women and destroying these men’s careers? Maybe, on the rare occasion, one of these women could be telling the truth – but most of these women seem hungry for fame and/or money.

Now, Matt Lauer, Charlie Rose and countless other men are losing their jobs because of these conniving women. Also, especially with someone like Charlie Rose, something that could’ve been accepted decades ago is not accepted today, such as a smack on the butt. If you were smacked on the butt by Matt Lauer twenty years ago, get over it. That’s not sexual misconduct.

As if our country wasn’t divisive enough, it’s now getting to be a thicker line between men and women because these women love to play the victim role – and everyone is rallying to their side. And it’s disgusting. If all these claims were true, why didn’t they say something when they first happened instead of waiting till now? I don’t believe any of it.

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I believe them, most of them, but I don't believe they are truly brave. If they were they wouldn't have allowed to this to go on in the first place.

Rightguide said:

I believe them, most of them, but I don't believe they are truly brave. If they were they wouldn't have allowed to to go on in the first place.

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L8r, d00d.

Rightguide said:

I believe them, most of them, but I don't believe they are truly brave. If they were they wouldn't have allowed to to go on in the first place.

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In your estimation, are they more or less brave than disgraced, loser Vietnam-era marines?

Can't get through the first sentence.

IGNORE

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These women are full of crap.

• ALL PROGRESSIVE GB FEMALES

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Way too much crap, too, in your post, so I edited it for simple, factual clarity for you. Yw.

I don't think that all of the women who make these claims are lying, but statistically speaking it's virtually impossible for all of them to be telling the truth. Also, they aren't exactly brave, to be brave they would have to be risking something by doing the right thing.

vetteman didn't go to war by himself. He had the backing of men greater, braver, and stronger than him, that had his back. Without them, he would have crumbled and withered.

My husband and I see things

very differently. He thinks it's unfair that someone can make a claim and the person gets fired while I know it doesn't work like that because I've been involved in many cases investigating sexual misconduct claims and understand the process.

There are women who are vindictive and will make false claims but you also have the ones who are telling the truth about their experience but have never spoken up out of fear they won't be believed or that they will get fired for reporting an incident.

I'm one of the #metoo women and there was an incident that occurred about 10 years ago that I never told my husband about or he would have probably beat the shit out of the person and ended up in jail over it.

He was my manager, very high-level, and despite knowing my position, he still tried to get into my panties. I'm pretty ballsy so I told him to he must have taken an overdose of Viagra or had too much to drink over lunch. He realized he fucked up and promptly apologized.

Since Matt is the latest to be canned over his behavior, I can tell you that they wouldn't have terminated their golden boy so quickly unless they had evidence that what the woman was alleging was 100% true and without a doubt they had other situations they knew they could no longer overlook.

The Weinstein situation opened up a dam that's not going to be plugged up for a very long time and women are coming forward because they've had to keep quiet for so long. Some who have signed NDAs will probably speak to their lawyers and will be able to tell their stories.

The goal is to force heterosexuality into the closet, or get rid of it entirely, while continuing to promote homosexuality in the mainstream.

I've been saying the goal of the Gay Movement is the destruction of heterosexuality for the last 30 years. Nobody believed me. Now, its probably too late.

Even if a man gave a lady at work flowers, it would be considered as bad dropping his pants and asking for oral sex.

Make no mistake, the people behind the sex harassment agenda don't draw a distinction between a romantic gesture and a crude act.

They want all vestiges of heterosexuality out of the workplace.

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There are women who are vindictive and will make false claims but you also have the ones who are telling the truth about their experience but have never spoken up out of fear they won't be believed or that they will get fired for reporting an incident.

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Pretty much, which is why every case should be treated as potentially true. All of the evidence must be observed and assessed before any conclusion can be reached. Honestly it really annoys me that people make all of these allegations political, because currently all they are are that, allegations. Possible true or possibly false, but we won't know for sure until they are thoroughly investigated.

I'm sorry but what does a woman coming forward to speak up about her sexual abuse experience have to do with homosexuality? There's no movement against heterosexual people, but there's a movement against sexual predators, and especially against one particular individual who thinks being 32 and dating a 16 year old is perfectly normal. It's not. This sexuality/religious fear mongering and propaganda is what Pence and the rest of those very fake conservatives are putting out there. What I find comical is that so many of those very same conservatives have lots of skeletons in their closets. About a week ago, one very conservative individual had to resign his position after he got caught with his gay male lover!

renard_ruse said:

The goal is to force heterosexuality into the closet, or get rid of it entirely, while continuing to promote homosexuality in the mainstream.

I've been saying the goal of the Gay Movement is the destruction of heterosexuality for the last 30 years. Nobody believed me. Now, its probably too late.

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I agree 100% that all cases must be investigated, and no one should lose their job over allegations. However, when you have 20 women with similar incidents, accounts and sometimes proof, there's no way you can deny they're telling the truth.

Investigations take time and the process can be lengthy.

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Pretty much, which is why every case should be treated as potentially true. All of the evidence must be observed and assessed before any conclusion can be reached. Honestly it really annoys me that people make all of these allegations political, because currently all they are are that, allegations. Possible true or possibly false, but we won't know for sure until they are thoroughly investigated.

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I agree 100% that all cases must be investigated, and no one should lose their job over allegations. However, when you have 20 women with similar incidents, accounts and sometimes proof, there's no way you can deny they're telling the truth.

Investigations take time and the process can be lengthy.

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If that many came forward then there is definitely a good chance that the allegations are true. I try to avoid american news because it makes me angry so I don't usually have the details on these sorts of cases.

AnAmericanDarling said:

I thought, in America, it was innocent until proven guilty, but that is no longer the case anymore with this sexual misconduct hysteria. Why are people automatically believing these women and destroying these men’s careers? Maybe, on the rare occasion, one of these women could be telling the truth – but most of these women seem hungry for fame and/or money.

Now, Matt Lauer, Charlie Rose and countless other men are losing their jobs because of these conniving women. Also, especially with someone like Charlie Rose, something that could’ve been accepted decades ago is not accepted today, such as a smack on the butt. If you were smacked on the butt by Matt Lauer twenty years ago, get over it. That’s not sexual misconduct.

As if our country wasn’t divisive enough, it’s now getting to be a thicker line between men and women because these women love to play the victim role – and everyone is rallying to their side. And it’s disgusting. If all these claims were true, why didn’t they say something when they first happened instead of waiting till now? I don’t believe any of it.

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I tend to agree with you. What makes us believe these women? The fact that they are women and women never lie? Why do we take such devastating action against the ACCUSED? I know this is only social "justice", but it feels un-fair and un-American. A woman should not be able to anonymously ruin a person's life.

I think the reason women dont come forward is they consented at the time.

Years later, they want to rewrite their slutty behavior. Self-shamers.

blurts said:

As a female immigrant I feel conflicted when I hear about all these issues.

If I were to generalize:
I had so many outstanding work experiences with American and Australian men, but I came across too much envy, pettineess and backstabbing amonst Western women.
So I'm biased and skeptical of your feminazis and complainers.

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Most pakis feel that way.

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I thought, in America, it was innocent until proven guilty, but that is no longer the case anymore with this sexual misconduct hysteria.

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Innocent until proven guilty, in a court of law, dumbass.

It just shows how backward and lazy so many people are when it's finally coming to light how pervasive sexual harassment, coercion, and worse is in our society, the morally corrupt dolts say "it's too difficult to fix the problem," or "I don't want to lose my right of sexual power over those who may be subjected to it!" and so it's "let's just shut up the accusers!"

The alleged perpetrator is, of course, innocent until proven guilty. Especially if a man.

The accuser is, of course, guilty of lying until proven innocent. Especially if a woman.




What utter dark ages thinking.

adrina said:

The alleged perpetrator is, of course, innocent until proven guilty. Especially if a man.

The accuser is, of course, guilty of lying until proven innocent. Especially if a woman.




What utter dark ages thinking.

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I've always seen it that both are in a sort of limbo between telling the truth and lying. Everything that either of them say should be taken with a grain of salt.

adrina said:

The alleged perpetrator is, of course, innocent until proven guilty. Especially if a man.

The accuser is, of course, guilty of lying until proven innocent. Especially if a woman.




What utter dark ages thinking.

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In any real allegation of improper sexual contact, who you "believe" and who "believes" you does not matter.

The only thing that matters is whether the allegation can be proven in court, yes?

Yes. All the rest of it is attention whores seeking their 15 minutes of shame.

Wow, so much sympathy for the meek and abused. Give yourselves a round of applause.

Exescort said:

Wow, so much sympathy for the meek and abused. Give yourselves a round of applause.

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What about Matt Lauer's children for example?

Who has sympathy for them being exposed to unproven vicious rumors and his career being destroyed?

The people who are bypassing the justice system should be reviled, not rewarded.

MagnusRichard said:

What about Matt Lauer's children for example?

Who has sympathy for them being exposed to unproven vicious rumors and his career being destroyed?

The people who are bypassing the justice system should be reviled, not rewarded.

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I do believe all allegations are being investigated, therefore justice will prevail.
It’s not anyone’s place to lay blame until all facts are truly stated on both sides.