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I think there were other factors in play outside of diet. You know, like the lack of even the most basic health care, and dinosaurs.
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I think there were other factors in play outside of diet. You know, like the lack of even the most basic health care, and dinosaurs.
Haha... Besides dinosaurs and health care, the main reason that people didn't live very long back in the day was because of water that wasn't purified. Water purification was the biggest reason for the extension of human life.
I second all of this, and also want to emphasize that I hardly ever use weight as an indicator of my health, because how can it be? A simple weight does not take my body composition into account. If that composition is shifting around because you're losing fat and gaining muscle and you use weight as your sole indicator of progress, you may feel emotionally whipped-around, because as fire_breeze says, as women, our weight fluctuates quite a bit. Personally, I go by how my clothes fit and how I feel.
I could feel your fear in your past posts about this, but that last sentence in your most recent post really shows a certain desperation (and I hope you understand how I mean that, and that I am in no way judging you or your fear) not to be where you were before. But you know you can lose weight, as stated above. To me, losing weight is not the key to health.
It can be a piece of it, but I think as women, we are taught that so much of our value rests in what we look like, and in being smaller, taking up less space in the world--rarely are we encouraged to change our lifestyles for the sake of health, but rather for aesthetic reasons. Look at the covers of magazines around this time of year (really any time of year, but esp. now since "bathing suit season" is approaching), and you will see that they all resonate with the idea of looking better to satisfy the male gaze. I think we need to see ourselves on our own terms, and that can be hard, with almost nothing else in culture pointing to that, and with such long-standing habits of judging ourselves by someone else's standards. Habits, especially mental ones, that you don't even recognize are the hardest to break.
I hope you can let go of some of that control and just let yourself be, and see yourself through your own eyes. I hope all of it will be enjoyable rather than stressful.
(((HUGS))) to Firebreeze and Tomahawk! The trainer I talked to recommended more calories and cutting back on the amount of exercise. I'm going to stay at the 2,200/day and alternate running and Jazzercise everyday, 6 days a week. I love running on the road, when I hit four miles the endorphins kick in and the last mile feels soooooo good.
Sir took some pictures of me this weekend and when I saw them I was a little taken aback, my hips are very bony and my butt is skinny and flat. But, I do like the looks of my vulva. Rather than being a pink crease between my legs my beautiful flower is open and glistening. I also ran into an old friend of mine at Easter service. She was a model when she was younger, a few years, when I met her she got sick and gained lots of weight. When she was better she started losing weight. She passed through a phase where I would say she had the body and beauty that any woman would want. Now she is very skinny and she looks like me, no butt or hips and small boobs.
I realize I may be obsessing a bit, but the bottom line is that I am happier and I feel better physically and emotionally underweight than overweight. Sir is right, I have replaced alcohol with exercise. But I'm also putting more into my relationship with my children and him. This is very hard, but I realize I have an addictive personality and am working on getting better.
There are worse things to be addicted to.
It sounds like you're on the right track. I would make one suggestion regarding the weights.
Instead of focusing strictly on chest exercises with the idea of firming the area, add some shoulder and upper back exercises too. The net effect will be to improve your posture and draw your shoulders up and back, balancing the strong chest muscles which will actually draw your shoulder girdle forward and down into a slouch.
Also in terms of diet, eat immediately after exercise, at least a few hundred calories. That helps jump start recovery, replaces sugars in your muscles and liver, and helps prevent your body from consuming muscle mass during the recovery period.
Good luck.
J
Thanks Jamie, that sound like good advice. My fear with weight training is that I will end up with big muscles. At this stage in my life, I want to look like a woman. Big, strong arms look great on Michelle Obama, but I want a more feminine look. I do however want to make my small boobs as "perky" as possible.
Thanks Jamie, that sound like good advice. My fear with weight training is that I will end up with big muscles. At this stage in my life, I want to look like a woman. Big, strong arms look great on Michelle Obama, but I want a more feminine look. I do however want to make my small boobs as "perky" as possible.
Hugs back, girl.(((HUGS))) to Firebreeze and Tomahawk! The trainer I talked to recommended more calories and cutting back on the amount of exercise. I'm going to stay at the 2,200/day and alternate running and Jazzercise everyday, 6 days a week. I love running on the road, when I hit four miles the endorphins kick in and the last mile feels soooooo good.
Sir took some pictures of me this weekend and when I saw them I was a little taken aback, my hips are very bony and my butt is skinny and flat. But, I do like the looks of my vulva. Rather than being a pink crease between my legs my beautiful flower is open and glistening. I also ran into an old friend of mine at Easter service. She was a model when she was younger, a few years, when I met her she got sick and gained lots of weight. When she was better she started losing weight. She passed through a phase where I would say she had the body and beauty that any woman would want. Now she is very skinny and she looks like me, no butt or hips and small boobs.
I realize I may be obsessing a bit, but the bottom line is that I am happier and I feel better physically and emotionally underweight than overweight. Sir is right, I have replaced alcohol with exercise. But I'm also putting more into my relationship with my children and him. This is very hard, but I realize I have an addictive personality and am working on getting better.
Thanks Jamie, that sound like good advice. My fear with weight training is that I will end up with big muscles. At this stage in my life, I want to look like a woman. Big, strong arms look great on Michelle Obama, but I want a more feminine look. I do however want to make my small boobs as "perky" as possible.
I work in a sports centre (though not doing anything impressive or knowledgeable) and did sports science but have a feeling you loose water weight first week, then fat slowly over a few months, but muscle won't be put on through cardio stuff (like it sounds you do) until much later and then barely at all. Maybe you are in that gap phase?
You've lost the weight but not 'toned'?
Eat normal, exercise normal, but do just a little resistance stuff to work where-ever you feel you need to 'tighten'. Muscle weighs much more than fat so you could put on 10 pounds of muscle but not look any different clothed or go up a size in any area. I swim lots as it's a mix of cardio with just a little resistance and also all round work out body wise but also because I find gyms so boring Sauna/SteamRoom/Jacuzzi much more me!!!
Aqua-fitness classes are often aimed at older people but we have a guy does one aimed at younger and it's the class a couple of the fit rugby guys come to so I have been known to cover it when he's on holiday Would think if you like Jazzasize (think know what that is) you might like the water based classes to music. Shop around though and try different ones as from my course I know so many instructors come from different backgrounds like I do more stretches and yoga/pilates toning than most when I cover them but they seem to love it as different to the usual intense younger class. I come from a dancing and swimming background though not like 'exercise classes'...... the classes aimed at retired people they just seem to natter/gossip not exercise but I might be being harsh xx
Thanks for the reassurances everybody that I won't turn into a hulk from weight lifting. To answer your question Tilda, overall, I'm pleased, my legs look super hot, my arms are nice, toned but not muscular, my tummy is soft but flat and trim. My facial features have sharpened and I like the fact that I have a chin again and my cheekbones can be seen. The bad part is my bony hips, flat butt and my pride and joys that are a mere shadow of their former selves .
I have heard that building up chest muscles, while my boobs will still be saggy, may make them slightly more pronounced. I also thought about doing squats to give my butt some shape, what do you think?
PS: Jazzercise isn't as lame as it sounds, it's a great bunch of women
http://www.jazzercise.com/
I'm a bit late to this party, but squatting is a good way to build up the legs and butt. Deadlifts and weights are also good too. I've seen the 30 day squat challenge doing the rounds recently, why not give it a try?
Its important to have a well rounded exercise program - one that builds muscle as well as stamina, and one that changes constantly. Doing the same thing all the time will condition your body to that exercise, and it will start to have less and less of an effect, which is why people take rest periods, or switch up what they're doing in the gym.
Good luck
Also, try putting away the scale and using the mirror and how your clothes fit. Once you're in a healthy weight range, the scale is pretty useless. It only tells you what you weigh, not your body composition.
Tomahawk26 said:I think there were other factors in play outside of diet. You know, like the lack of even the most basic health care, and dinosaurs.
I thought it was a joke. Okay, maybe I was hoping it was a joke.Dinosaurs.
facepalm
I'm sorry. I know this is a tangent but fuck.
How is it possible that great swathes of an advanced super-power like the US can still be so wilfully ignorant and wilfully pass that ignorance onto their kids?
In an age of mid blowing tech kids are being hamstrung in sciences because their parents choose to believe the unmitigated bullshit in a 2000 year old fairytale.
I'm sorry but it's fucking insane and nothing short of criminal.