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Some people are not fond of reality. Some communication businesses are happy to remove reality from their news feeds. Some people are willing to tell lies to the public, because the truth makes some people unhappy.


Billionaires that support the removal of truth from news feeds, are buying up media publishers. Enjoy the truth, while you can.

Perhaps, we can learn from example of the citizens of Russia, on how to cope with the removal of truth.


November 27, 2017

Where reality does not exist, Jimmy Carter is dead.

Someone tweeted a great comment, that George Herbert Bush was the oldest ex-president, alive.

https://www.mediaite.com/online/who...ory-that-says-jimmy-carter-is-dead-hes-alive/

FOX TV provides truth free articles.

Sometimes, by accident.
Easy to be careless with facts.
Facts ruin great news bites.


https://www.gq.com/story/fox-news-carter-dead


Jimmy Carter inconveniently spoke to a reality based news outlet. He offered help Trump with North Korea.


Jimmy Carter famously met with Kim’s grandfather, Kim Il Sung, in 1994 and directly negotiated with him. Later, the Clinton administration approved an aid plan in exchange for the North paring down its nuclear weapons program.

http://www.newsweek.com/fox-news-jimmy-carter-not-dead-722877

Screen grab

https://www.mediaite.com/online/who...ory-that-says-jimmy-carter-is-dead-hes-alive/

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/fox-news-incorrectly-reported-jimmy-carter-died/

You can always post the truth, after you post a lie. Or, not.
 
Sarah Huckabee Sanders has a job, with the Trump administration. She is the official White House press secretary. It is her job, to tell lies. She earns Pinocchios from the Washington Post.

She has so little credibility, that many believed she told a lie about a 2017 Thanksgiving pie.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/joy-rei...y-lying-to-the-press-people-dont-believe-you/


http://www.nydailynews.com/life-sty...-huckabee-sanders-baked-pie-article-1.3654948

Sarah Huckabee Sanders’ pie was pictured against a white background, and Twitter users — many partisans on the left, but also a journalist — wanted to see the pie in a more realistic setting. In Sanders’ kitchen, perhaps, or at her dinner table.

April D. Ryan, Washington bureau chief for American Urban Radio Networks, skeptically tweeted, “Show it to us on a table.”


Why the reality based journalists will not accept an un-authenticated pie-

"At times, what we’ve found with this administration is a president, and even lower-level staffers, who are willing to lie about issues big and small.… It’s now come to the point where some are even willing to question the legitimacy of a pie,” said Weaver, who was an advisor to Ohio Gov. John Kasich’s campaign for the GOP presidential nomination.

http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-white-house-credibility-20171125-story.html

April Ryan from American Urban Radio Networks searches for the truth. She angered Sean Spicer, the former WH press secretary. It was difficult for him to have a press conference without reality. Others would not cooperate with his efforts to erase the truth.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...sean-spicer-lashes-out-reporter-april-n739691
 
She lies about the big stuff. It's just petty to go after her (or anyone else) about a pie when there are real, important issues to after her on.
 
November 27, 2017


This afternoon's reality denying session conducted by Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

The official White House liar has taken a page from Dolores Umbridge's book of class discipline. The consequences for defying Huckabee Sanders might be severe ?


"White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said the term was not a racial slur."


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-racial-slur-white-house-latest-a8079121.html

Say goodbye to any legitimate news in Time magazine.


Time Inc. bought by Meredith Corp. for $2.8B in Koch-backed sale

November 26, 2017

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/11/26...-nears-deal-to-acquire-publisher-of-time.html


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/26/...e-inc-meredith-corporation-koch-brothers.html

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-meredith-time-inc-20171126-story.html


David Folkenflik, media correspondent for National Public Radio, said the size of the Kochs’ investment raised questions about their motivation. “There have got to be better investment opportunities,” he said. Folkenflik pointed out that the promises of other media investors – most notably Rupert Murdoch – not to interfere with a publication’s editorial policies have proved hollow.

The Kochs “have gone after journalists they find overly critical”, he said. “To have proprietors who are so hostile to the endeavors of journalism gives you great pause.”

The deal, which was unanimously approved by both boards, is a coup for Meredith, which held unsuccessful talks to buy Time earlier this year and in 2013.


https://www.theguardian.com/media/2...thers-give-650m-to-help-meredith-buy-time-inc
 
A moment in White House history-

We do not need any stinking reality!

Kellyanne Conway, the perkiest presidential adviser since Pierre Salinger, had described the White House press secretary’s inauguration crowd claims as “alternative facts.” So the Merriam-Webster Dictionary, in its online presence, decided to tweet the definition of the word “fact”—“a piece of information presented as having an objective reality,” followed by an infobit titled “Conway: ‘Alternative facts’: Lookups for ‘fact’ spiked after Kellyanne Conway described false statements as ‘alternative facts.’” Is there any form of media that is not taking on Trump?

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/the-politicization-of-everything-214714
 
James O’Keefe has not had any success with creating without reality, lately. His absurd attack on ACORN was years, ago. He does not risk direct contact with his victims.

James O'keefe latest venture has ended in absurdity and false claims.


O'Keefe released a video which he said exposed the newspaper's liberal bias.


https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/nov/27/washington-post-project-veritas-sting-report


https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...es-on-project-veritas/?utm_term=.8c6c461a46b1


Anyone who has tracked the stings of James O’Keefe will read about McCrummen and Phillips with great interest, even glee. Here, after all, is a righteous bit of table-turning: Watch as Phillips fumbles and bumbles her way out of her interview; watch as O’Keefe and his wingmen bluster and filibuster their way out of the same sorts of questions their agents pose to others; track all the lies and evasions. Yet consider, too, that this whole enterprise required the contributions of McCrummen, Reinhard, Crites, Shawn Boburg, Davis and others working behind the scenes — resources that might otherwise have been deployed investigating other senators, chief executives or potentates. These, however, are ridiculous times, in which proving that the media checks out its sources is a towering imperative.


http://www.nydailynews.com/news/pol...-false-roy-moore-story-wapo-article-1.3661137

Washington Post's executive editor Martin Baron responded by publishing Phillips' false claims in full, despite an "off-the-record" deal.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/inve...no-name:homepage/story&utm_term=.8e96efe5bf3e


We always honor 'off-the-record' agreements when they're entered into in good faith," Baron said in a statement. "But this so-called off-the-record conversation was the essence of a scheme to deceive and embarrass us. The intent by Project Veritas clearly was to publicize the conversation if we fell for the trap. Because of our customary journalistic rigor, we weren't fooled, and we can't honor an 'off-the-record' agreement that was solicited in maliciously bad faith.
 
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Trump can magically erase reality, by simply denying it.


Trump, announcing that something is fake. Insinuates that is not his voice, on the recording.


Tad dah! Presto- Change-O! Despite witnesses, despite documentation, despite a traceable timeline, despite photographic evidence, despite testimony that would stand up to a lie detector.

Despite proof!

There is always a shadow of a doubt.
Sensible people leave a way open for other possibilities.

Except for the fact that he responded to the scandal, but giving himself the excuse that it was "locker-room talk."

Trump has begun changing his story about even the most incontrovertible evidence, suggesting to a senator earlier this year that the Access Hollywood tape on which he was recorded bragging about sexually assaulting women is “not authentic,” and more recently telling an adviser the same.


On Monday night, Times reporter Maggie Haberman told CNN that a third person “close to Trump” had confirmed that the president expressed doubts about the tape’s veracity, saying, “he’s not certain it’s his voice.”

Actress Arianne Zucker, who appeared on the Access Hollywood episode in which Trump made his comments, chimed in Monday night on CNN, telling Anderson Cooper, “I don’t know how else that could be fake unless someone’s planting words in your mouth.”



https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/11/donald-trump-believes-access-hollywood-tape-is-fake



Touré

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If Trump can just deny that the Access Hollywood tape is real then why can't we just deny that the entire Trump Presidency is real

Touré

@Toure
Trump now says it wasn’t him on the Access Hollywood tape. This is gaslighting.
1:28 PM - Nov 26, 2017



http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slat...ed_person_of_the_year_but_time_disagrees.html


gsgs comment- Trump does it to provoke. If it is unacceptable, he will do it. It will get a reaction.
 
But wait, there's more!

Report: Trump Still Pushing Obama Birtherism
President Donald Trump is still questioning the authenticity of former President Barack Obama’s birth certificate behind closed doors, according to a new report from The New York Times. In addition to throwing doubt on the legitimacy of the infamous Access Hollywood tape, Trump has also, in recent months, reportedly revived the birtherism conspiracy theory that aided his rise to political prominence.

The story cites an unnamed U.S. senator who “listened as the president revived his doubts about Mr. Obama’s birth certificate.” Trump, he said, “has had a hard time letting go of his claim that Mr. Obama was not born in the United States.” In September of last year, then-candidate Trump held a press conference to declare that “President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period,” before inventing a new lie that Hillary Clinton had “started the birther controversy” during her 2008 primary run against Obama.
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Who needs reality when you have a fast Tweet thumb?
 
Just pretend that reality never happened! Edit out the inconvenient facts.

There, fixed.

Well,not really. Only those that find reality unpalatable, will prefer the Veritas version.

James O'Keefe and Post reporter exchange: what really happened

video at links


https://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/once-again-james-okeefe-caught-slanting

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art..._to_the_Chase-_James_OKeefe_Is_a_Lying_Weasel

Here’s a stunning example of the kind of right wing “journalism” James O’Keefe practices. Watch the video above, then watch the following ridiculously deceptive, heavily edited video O’Keefe put out to make himself look good.

edited film at youtube-


O'Keefe Confrontation w/ WaPo Reporter, Announces New #AmericanPravda Video


http://littlegreenfootballs.com/art..._to_the_Chase-_James_OKeefe_Is_a_Lying_Weasel


This is the tweet James O'Keefe sent out yesterday after a confrontation with Dan Lamothe, a Washington Post reporter over the latest Project Veritas scam:


The Washington Post sends a reporter to question me, but take a look. Who's interviewing who ?

— James O'Keefe (@JamesOKeefeIII) November 27, 2017

What kind of a man decides to hire someone to fake being raped to discredit actual victims? James O'Keefe, of course.


https://crooksandliars.com/2017/11/once-again-james-okeefe-caught-slanting


So, they busted the Veritas operative, because her fake name, fake identity, and fake story could not pass the sniff test at WaPo. She squirmed and wiggled away, when they tried to get some coherent answers from her. Biggest mistake, is she made a beeline to Veritas after she was unsuccessful in trying to get WaPo to swallow poisoned bait.

The legitimate journalist made an appointment with Veritas, in good faith. He was very clear about what his purpose was, at being present at the location.

He was there to get answers.

"I came to ask questions. If you do not answer tyese questions, I am going to leave."



Did Jaime Phillips work at Veritas ?

Does Veritas work for Roy Moore?

Does Veritas work for Steve Bannon ?

Does Veritas work for the Republican party ?
Does Veritas work for the Republican party of Alsbama ?

Your employee from Project Veritas used a fake name, told us a fake story. Many deceits in her account.

Why did you use these tactics ?
Did you send her, with a fake name, and a fake story ?
She gave us (information) fake employment. Many deceptions over the course of weeks.

(O'Keefe's operative contacted WaPo over multiple weeks, she had several interviews. There were inconsistencies in her story.)


(Ultimately Jaime's story was not published. The story seemed to be a fabrication.)

It was clear, that James O'Keefe had no intentions of answering, and he was reduced to following the journalist, providing a narrative for his own video. Which had no real questions for the journalist to answer.
 
Hypoxia said:
But wait, there's more!

Report: Trump Still Pushing Obama Birtherism
Who needs reality when you have a fast Tweet thumb?

President Donald Trump is still questioning the authenticity of former President Barack Obama’s birth certificate behind closed doors, according to a new report from The New York Times. In addition to throwing doubt on the legitimacy of the infamous Access Hollywood tape, Trump has also, in recent months, reportedly revived the birtherism conspiracy theory that aided his rise to political prominence.

The story cites an unnamed U.S. senator who “listened as the president revived his doubts about Mr. Obama’s birth certificate.” Trump, he said, “has had a hard time letting go of his claim that Mr. Obama was not born in the United States.” In September of last year, then-candidate Trump held a press conference to declare that “President Barack Obama was born in the United States, period,” before inventing a new lie that Hillary Clinton had “started the birther controversy” during her 2008 primary run against Obama.
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Trump has said very clearly that he acknowledges the birth of Trump in Hawaii. Why would you give any credence to this anon. person being quoted by one of Trump's bitterest enemies? :confused::confused:

There is very solid evidence that the original birther was a supporter of Hillary in 2008. http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/27/polit...te-patti-solis-doyle-birther-obama/index.html
 
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Why did the Washington Post journalist ask about Steve Bannon and the Mercer family ?


What possible possible purpose would be served, by passing a fake abortion story concerning Roy Moore ?

Whataboutism is very important to skunks that support Roy Moore. A twofer would result, if Washington Post did not reject the fraudulent story.

An example of a victim that is a liar. (Victims did not lie.)
An example of Washington Post publishing a false story.

Conservative Megadonor Robert Mercer Funded Project Veritas

The Mercers, secretive billionaires who are among President Trump's most powerful donors, also helped to fund Project Veritas, the controversial activist organization, tax filings obtained by BuzzFeed News show.

Gravitas Maximus LLC — a Mercer investment vehicle through which he also funded the conservative outlet Breitbart — gave $25,000 to Project Veritas, according to a nonpublic portion of a 2012 tax form. The family's involvement has not previously been made public.

The Mercer family did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The filings draw yet another connection in the web of conservative enterprises funded by Robert Mercer, who recently stepped down from his role as co-CEO of hedge fund Renaissance Technologies after a BuzzFeed News exposé revealed the connections among the Mercers, Breitbart, and white nationalists and neo-Nazis.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/josephbern...roject-veritas?utm_term=.jkrwXNRAV#.dfeZbD3r7
 
Living without reality has its downside. A man will step forward to smear child's name, in order to excuse a full grown man of perversion?

https://www.salon.com/2017/12/04/republicans-roll-out-the-red-carpet-for-roy-moore/

A man steps forward to say the child is no angel, and that statement is expected to erase the evil perpetuated by powerful political figure ?


An evil man, that many responsible adults worked against, in order to protect the innocent. A man that used his position and power to threaten good people into silence and inaction.

A man who hides his evil behind the cross of Christianity, and the shield of the law. In order to strengthen an alliance, those that choose to live without reality seek to give a corrupt man more power and protection.

Children's blood taken by their evil friend, on the altar of their God/god. Their deity Jesus the Christ gave his blood voluntarily, they say. Is this the way they lay respect to his sacrifice? With obscenity, and obscene lust ?

There is an expression that fits-

"We don't talk about that."

Skeletons, inside the hollow altar ?
 
But . . . but . . . the Republicans need his vote in the U.S. Senate. Which tells you a lot about the values of the Republicans in the Congress. It would be nice if the voters remembered that next November. Unfortunately the values of the many of the voters aren't any better.
 
Janet Porter steps forward to point out all of the girls and teenagers that Roy Moore did not molest.


:confused:

Janet Porter uses the magic that makes reality disappear. She simply denies the truth.



Why would Janet Porter do that ?


Janet Folger Porter's stock in trade, is extreme conspiracy. While Democrats were trying to convince the country to open their eyes to the truth, Janet Porter was spinning wild, frightening visions for her followers.


VCY dropped Porter’s program in 2010 after she became increasingly involved in promoting dominion theology, including organizing a dominionist event on the National Mall. As we wrote at the time:

[Porter’s event was] organized around the “Seven Mountains” theology, which advocates the complete takeover of every aspect of contemporary culture by modern day “apostles” of Christ. The theology is rooted in the belief that Christians are meant to have dominion over literally everything and is focused on spiritually “invading” seven specific facets of modern life in order to wrest control away from Satan and his demonic spirits so that Christians can put them to use in bringing about God’s kingdom on Earth: (1) Business; (2) Government; (3) Media; (4) Arts and Entertainment; (5) Education; (6) Family; and (7) Religion.

https://www.salon.com/2016/12/08/me...behind-the-ohio-fetal-heartbeat-bill_partner/


Janet Porter, president of the Ohio-based pro-life group Faith2Action



Greg Garrison
@greg_garrison
So, to summarize, Janet Porter of Faith2Action, you and about a dozen other people from outside Alabama came to Alabama to tell Alabama that Alabama won't be intimidated by outsiders.
4:16 PM November 16, 2017


Janet Porter is an anti-abortion extremist who led an unsuccessful effort to get lawmakers in Ohio to approve a “Heartbeat Bill” that would ban abortions as early as six weeks into pregnancy. Right Wing Watch notes that in 2010, Porter lost her radio program “when the Christian network that hosted it objected to her increasing embrace of an extremist Christian movement known as Dominionism, which teaches that Christians are to control all levers of power within society and use those positions to implement public policy that corresponds to the Bible.” She’s the founder of Faith2Action, an organization listed as an “active anti-LGBT hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center.


https://thinkprogress.org/roy-moore-spokesman-janet-porter-cnn-abortion-1786bde1d338/


Discussing the multiple allegations against Moore, Jane Porter told CNN’s Poppy Harlow “we need to make it clear, there’s a group of non-accusers, that have not accused the judge of anything illegal.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-moore-alabama-senate-race_us_5a26a5cbe4b086e4e5047704


The biased liberal news media has focused enormous attention on women who claim to have been hit on (or worse) as teenagers by Roy Moore, excavating their evidence in grim detail. (“That’s the age I was when I dated Roy Moore, because my braces were off,” one woman tells the Washington Post, revisiting her yearbook that Moore signed.) Yet these one-sided accounts fail to give equal attention to a far larger group: women who made it through their teenage years without Roy Moore trying to get into their pants.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...-molested-by-roy-moore-spokesperson-says.html


After CNN's Poppy Harlow noted that Leigh Corfman's story had been corroborated by 30 people between 1977 and 1982, Porter insisted that this wasn't true, before arguing that the media was biased against Moore because it wouldn't report on the women who hadn't accused him of sexual misconduct


https://www.salon.com/2017/12/05/a-...zarre-defense-of-the-allegations-against-him/


During the interview, Porter called most of the women "non-accusers," and suggested that some of his accusers were Democratic operatives or were intent on "seeking revenge" against Moore.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnas...g-he-would-not?utm_term=.cmoPgQoD1#.nmRwZd6gL


Have we heard this excuse, before ?

Sen. Orrin Hatch, who traveled with Trump on Monday to Hatch's home state of Utah, said he realistically didn't have any choice. Hatch said, of Moore, "That's the only Republican you can possibly get down there at this time."

http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article188091614.html

The Republican Party in Alabama threatens retaliation



Roy Moore refused to drop out, however. Instead, he mounted an aggressive campaign against the women, whom he said were all lying under the direction of the Democratic Party and the media. His campaign aides threatened to reveal damaging information about the women in an attempt to discredit their allegations. The candidate, meanwhile, has kept a low public profile with zero campaign events on his schedule.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-roy-moore-alabama_us_5a2435fae4b03c44072e3b81

Fear in Alabama- The newspapers do not publish support for Doug Jones, out of fear.

The women that spoke up about their grounds for opposition, are threatened.

Republican National Committee will reinstate its financial support of Senate nominee Roy Moore just weeks after it cut off funding following multiple allegations of sexual impropriety made against the former Alabama judge, several media outlets said Monday.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...support-roy-moore_us_5a261231e4b07324e8402593
 
The Republicans have been absolutely consistent in doing anything, casting aside any standard procedure or principle, to maintain votes in Congress. This is absolutely consistent with their values--while, using their other face, going after the morals of any faltering Democrat. Don't count on Moore facing any Republican challenge when he gets to the Senate either.

Don't look to Alabama for any moral leadership or anything but evangelist tent "Christian" leadership either.
 
sr71plt said:
The Republicans have been absolutely consistent in doing anything, casting aside any standard procedure or principle, to maintain votes in Congress. This is absolutely consistent with their values--while, using their other face, going after the morals of any faltering Democrat. Don't count on Moore facing any Republican challenge when he gets to the Senate either.

Don't look to Alabama for any moral leadership or anything but evangelist tent "Christian" leadership either.
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As dire as these times seem, it is sometimes heartening to realize that all this turmoil and insanity of the Trump era is perhaps simply the final cries of "good Christian" white male supremacy in America.

If we live that long...
 
I've found "good Christian" tent evangelistic women more of a mental two-faced mess than their male counterparts. Even some of the accusers of Moore--didn't bother them when they voted for Trump.
 
Christian.

Since the word Christian has the word Christ built into it, one would be led to expect that their Jesus the Christ is at the root of it all.

So, it is today, that modern Republicans follow the path of Christ the revolutionary. He was a living human man, in the old Middle East. Rome has record of him, as lart of the census. No one truly knows what Jesus was thinking. We can only piece together what he has done. Jesus acted against the control that the Jewish managers of the Jewish Sacred Temple's wealth and laws, had. It was a closed system. Jesus entered into a conspiracy, and got caught. Then, again, maybe the many men named Jesus, had their lives all mixed up, together. No one knows, after all of this time.


The modern Extremist Right White Supremacists and Extremist Right Religious fanatics battle against their (Neo ?) Conservative Republican brothers and sisters for control of the Republican political temple. Washington DC, decorated with pseudo-Roman sculptures, vies with the Pope-ish Italian Rome as the center of control, power, and wealth. Fates, and universes help us, if Trump decided to nuke the Vatican city. The burning of the libraries at Alexandria, all over, again.

Superstitions became attached to his memory. They decided to keep Jesus's memory into the image of a God/god, just as Romans kept the memory of their leaders by transforming them into images of a God/god, or Goddess/goddess.

Now, modern day Extremist Right Religious Christian fanatics are fearful that their Jesus the Christ will never be reincarnated into human form again. Women may have had freedom to abort a fetus in the ancient world, but now the ERRC fanatics want to outlaw abortion, or anything that would interfere with the development of a fetus.

gsgs comment- There are prophecies attached to the reincarnation of their Jesus the Christ. I am not certain of what they expect to happen. I have talked to Christians that believe that everyone that is a true believer in their faction of Christianity, will live in a form of Eden. They did not like my boa constrictor. They said they would like them better, after the magical event happened. There have been many thrilling tales written, and many films made about the post reincarnation event.

The Christians have become overly bossy. I hope they do not start burning people under false pretenses, again.

Did you know the women of Salem, and some of the men of Salem died because they were standing inconveniently in the way of land transfers ? The burning of witches was a convenient way to get rid of obstructions. Greedy fuckers.

The idea of profiting by using accusations is nothing new. A whole industry was organized around the torture and death of human beings. Tools must be made, the prisoners must transported, records must be kept. Someone gets the commission to feed the prisoners. Hires are made to judge the prisoners. The prisoners can be usedfor free labor. At the end, a man is hired to kill prisoners.

Which leads me to mull over today's argument of Roy Moore. Some believe the victims, because of human decency. Some believe the pervert, because of political affiliation.

Joan d' Arc won her Prince a Kingship, and a Nation. She was in the hands of the English, after her capture. All else is conjecture.

Relics have proved to be false. Relics that possibly give proof, are not allowed to be "violated" by science.

She has come to be thought of as a martyr. They made her into a saint. Though she may have been burnt as a witch. *shrug* She may have been sacrificed for political expediency.

The modern girls that remained non-pregnant, but, yet, sexually violated by Roy Moore, refused to be sacrifices, to protect future fetuses. But, they are suffering insults from people of their own political party. Believed, or not, their testimony is rendered mostly harmless. The victims may have voted for Trump, as good Alabama girls. But, Trump needs an Extremist Right fanatic religious figure, to bend to his will. Roy Moore will swear loyalty to his own self, and to Trump (falsely).

All manner of human decency will fall by the wayside, if this happens.

We will have the most un-Christian/ definition of modern Christian version of America, yet.

yikes!

huzzah?

Would the Pope ever tell the truth, about how he feels about Trump's march toward madness ?


(The Pope is very old. He must know many secrets. What does he know about Russian banks ?)

heh heh


hey! Songcatcher!
 
gotsnowgotslush said:
Janet Porter steps forward to point out all of the girls and teenagers that Roy Moore did not molest.


:confused:

Janet Porter uses the magic that makes reality disappear. She simply denies the truth.



Why would Janet Porter do that ?


Janet Folger Porter's stock in trade, is extreme conspiracy. While Democrats were trying to convince the country to open their eyes to the truth, Janet Porter was spinning wild, frightening visions for her followers.


VCY dropped Porter’s program in 2010 after she became increasingly involved in promoting dominion theology, including organizing a dominionist event on the National Mall. As we wrote at the time:

[Porter’s event was] organized around the “Seven Mountains” theology, which advocates the complete takeover of every aspect of contemporary culture by modern day “apostles” of Christ. The theology is rooted in the belief that Christians are meant to have dominion over literally everything and is focused on spiritually “invading” seven specific facets of modern life in order to wrest control away from Satan and his demonic spirits so that Christians can put them to use in bringing about God’s kingdom on Earth: (1) Business; (2) Government; (3) Media; (4) Arts and Entertainment; (5) Education; (6) Family; and (7) Religion.

https://www.salon.com/2016/12/08/me...behind-the-ohio-fetal-heartbeat-bill_partner/


Janet Porter, president of the Ohio-based pro-life group Faith2Action



Greg Garrison
@greg_garrison
So, to summarize, Janet Porter of Faith2Action, you and about a dozen other people from outside Alabama came to Alabama to tell Alabama that Alabama won't be intimidated by outsiders.
4:16 PM November 16, 2017


Janet Porter is an anti-abortion extremist who led an unsuccessful effort to get lawmakers in Ohio to approve a “Heartbeat Bill” that would ban abortions as early as six weeks into pregnancy. Right Wing Watch notes that in 2010, Porter lost her radio program “when the Christian network that hosted it objected to her increasing embrace of an extremist Christian movement known as Dominionism, which teaches that Christians are to control all levers of power within society and use those positions to implement public policy that corresponds to the Bible.” She’s the founder of Faith2Action, an organization listed as an “active anti-LGBT hate group” by the Southern Poverty Law Center.


https://thinkprogress.org/roy-moore-spokesman-janet-porter-cnn-abortion-1786bde1d338/


Discussing the multiple allegations against Moore, Jane Porter told CNN’s Poppy Harlow “we need to make it clear, there’s a group of non-accusers, that have not accused the judge of anything illegal.”

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/roy-moore-alabama-senate-race_us_5a26a5cbe4b086e4e5047704


The biased liberal news media has focused enormous attention on women who claim to have been hit on (or worse) as teenagers by Roy Moore, excavating their evidence in grim detail. (“That’s the age I was when I dated Roy Moore, because my braces were off,” one woman tells the Washington Post, revisiting her yearbook that Moore signed.) Yet these one-sided accounts fail to give equal attention to a far larger group: women who made it through their teenage years without Roy Moore trying to get into their pants.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...-molested-by-roy-moore-spokesperson-says.html


After CNN's Poppy Harlow noted that Leigh Corfman's story had been corroborated by 30 people between 1977 and 1982, Porter insisted that this wasn't true, before arguing that the media was biased against Moore because it wouldn't report on the women who hadn't accused him of sexual misconduct


https://www.salon.com/2017/12/05/a-...zarre-defense-of-the-allegations-against-him/


During the interview, Porter called most of the women "non-accusers," and suggested that some of his accusers were Democratic operatives or were intent on "seeking revenge" against Moore.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/tasneemnas...g-he-would-not?utm_term=.cmoPgQoD1#.nmRwZd6gL


Have we heard this excuse, before ?

Sen. Orrin Hatch, who traveled with Trump on Monday to Hatch's home state of Utah, said he realistically didn't have any choice. Hatch said, of Moore, "That's the only Republican you can possibly get down there at this time."

http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/article188091614.html

The Republican Party in Alabama threatens retaliation



Roy Moore refused to drop out, however. Instead, he mounted an aggressive campaign against the women, whom he said were all lying under the direction of the Democratic Party and the media. His campaign aides threatened to reveal damaging information about the women in an attempt to discredit their allegations. The candidate, meanwhile, has kept a low public profile with zero campaign events on his schedule.


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mitch-mcconnell-roy-moore-alabama_us_5a2435fae4b03c44072e3b81

Fear in Alabama- The newspapers do not publish support for Doug Jones, out of fear.

The women that spoke up about their grounds for opposition, are threatened.

Republican National Committee will reinstate its financial support of Senate nominee Roy Moore just weeks after it cut off funding following multiple allegations of sexual impropriety made against the former Alabama judge, several media outlets said Monday.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...support-roy-moore_us_5a261231e4b07324e8402593
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It's a bit like pointing all of the Wichita residents that BTK didn't kill, right? :rolleyes:
 
welp!
*shrug*

A major media network outlet allowed a journalist to mention a Christianity obsession.

Some factions are obsessed with Jerusalem, and that obsession centers on the re-incarnation of their Jesus the Christ.


Emperor Carrot Head has decided to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem, in order to please American Christians.


Wednesday, Donald Trump made the expected announcement that he was recognizing Jerusalem — all of Jerusalem — as the capital of Israel, and moving the US embassy from Tel Aviv.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/20...-he-doesn-t-realize-what-all-he-could-trigger


During the announcement, Emperor Carrot Head was experiencing his thirst disorder, and could not finish his speech properly.

"United sh-sh-sh ??? ssss."

Jerusalem has been a religious center for the followers of Muhammad, the followers of the Talmud, and the followers of Jesus the Christ.

For an American to interfere with the religious practices in another country, is Un-American. I have sympathy, for the difficulties for the Jewish administrators. Ceaseless struggles are part of administrating Jerusalem, and defending the lives of Jewish citizens is never-ending. Emperor Carrot Head never educated himself on the difficult matters that involve Jerusalem. He smashed his foot into a wasp's nest, in blind ignorance. He does not concern himself with who may be hurt. His wise counselors should have prevented this.
 
gotsnowgotslush said:
Emperor Carrot Head has decided to move the American Embassy to Jerusalem, in order to please American Christians.
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Afraid that misses the mark. It's specific sects calling themselves Christians (but demonstrating otherwise--Trump's not-too-bright evangelicals favoring a not-even-remotely Christian Trump) who favor this, without giving any thought into why. The mainstream Christian churches have opposed it--the pope denounced it yesterday (so, so much for the Catholics). 13 Christian sect leaders in Jerusalem sent a letter to Trump asking him not to do it (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...173e4b02d3bfc37a9a5?ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009). The heads of the mainstream Christian churches in the States and Europe have consistently opposed it.

This is a please the dumb base and the Israeli's thing (without getting anything in return), not a please Christians thing. Christians want unrestricted access in Jerusalem. The city is as important to Christianity as it is to Judaism and Islam. Christians don't want Israelis having more control there. The Israelis assert control with a heavy hand--toward Moslems and Christians alike.

People tend to equate Arab and Moslem, by the way, which isn't a direct fit. 500,000 of the 12 million Palestinians are Christians. 40 percent of the Lebanese are Christian. 10 percent of Egyptians and Syrians are Christian.
 
Someone will eventually nuke Jerusalem and the question will be settled.

Or will it? The Muslim claim to Jeru is based on Mohammad flying there in a dream. Maybe his dream extends to radioactive ruins.

In which case, expect Mecca to be nuked, too. Then other holy places: Vatican City. Monument Valley. Angkor Wat. Scientology HQ. My stash of carved deities OMFG!

Suppose Kim's missile goes astray and vaporizes a Bible Museum. Is that divine justice?
 
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