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KimGordon67

KimGordon67

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This is a serious question. I've seen it again and again on the GB - some issue related to transgender folk that's, as far as I can tell, of no actual consequence to the everyday lives of 99.99% of the population, seems to get people amazingly worked up. Seeing as I don't come in contact with people who find this sort of thing upsetting in my everyday life, I'm curious as to what motivates people's extreme dislike of anything trans, or even have a negative reaction to specific issues.

It would be cool to get some considered responses to the question, so if anyone just wants to call me a lunatic ... well, I guess it doesn't matter so much, but it's a bit silly. If you're responses are based on something you're presented as 'fact', I'd also really appreciate some evidence to back that up, not just 'everyone knows', or 'the media is full of ...' whatever.
 
KimGordon67 said:
This is a serious question. I've seen it again and again on the GB - some issue related to transgender folk that's, as far as I can tell, of no actual consequence to the everyday lives of 99.99% of the population, seems to get people amazingly worked up. Seeing as I don't come in contact with people who find this sort of thing upsetting in my everyday life, I'm curious as to what motivates people's extreme dislike of anything trans, or even have a negative reaction to specific issues.

It would be cool to get some considered responses to the question, so if anyone just wants to call me a lunatic ... well, I guess it doesn't matter so much, but it's a bit silly. If you're responses are based on something you're presented as 'fact', I'd also really appreciate some evidence to back that up, not just 'everyone knows', or 'the media is full of ...' whatever.
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What makes you think people get worked up over trans persons. Some do, of course, but most people believe in live and let live. I am referring here to people who are undergoing or have undergone sex change procedures.

However, many persons have very negative thoughts about some men who claim to actually be women and go into girl's or women's rest rooms and locker rooms in order to scope out the people who are using them. These would be men who don't look or act even a little bit female. I especially don't like it when it who is one of my granddaughters who is being peeped at.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
However, many persons have very negative thoughts about some men who claim to actually be women and go into girl's or women's rest rooms and locker rooms in order to scope out the people who are using them. These would be men who don't look or act even a little bit female. I especially don't like it when it who is one of my granddaughters who is being peeped at.
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How common is this?
 
Boxlicker101 said:
What makes you think people get worked up over trans persons. Some do, of course, but most people believe in live and let live. I am referring here to people who are undergoing or have undergone sex change procedures.

However, many persons have very negative thoughts about some men who claim to actually be women and go into girl's or women's rest rooms and locker rooms in order to scope out the people who are using them. These would be men who don't look or act even a little bit female. I especially don't like it when it who is one of my granddaughters who is being peeped at.
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Re: the first bolded point - I've had numerous debates with people on the GB about trans-related issues.

Re: the second bolded point - this is a subset of people who identify as trans (and in fact, not all transsexual people do identify as trans).

Re: the third bolded point - your description is a bit odd, but I don't think anyone who falls into that category is 'trans'. And yes, I'd be interested to know the actual incidence of this sort of thing.
But I do want to be quite clear that I don't support this being used as a reason to deny trans people access to the appropriate toilets. Men masquerading as something other than who they are in order to engage in predatory behaviour are, as I noted, not trans. This reason is therefore using the actions of non-trans people to punish trans people.
 
KimGordon67 said:
Re: the first bolded point - I've had numerous debates with people on the GB about trans-related issues.

Re: the second bolded point - this is a subset of people who identify as trans (and in fact, not all transsexual people do identify as trans).

Re: the third bolded point - your description is a bit odd, but I don't think anyone who falls into that category is 'trans'. And yes, I'd be interested to know the actual incidence of this sort of thing.
But I do want to be quite clear that I don't support this being used as a reason to deny trans people access to the appropriate toilets. Men masquerading as something other than who they are in order to engage in predatory behaviour are, as I noted, not trans. This reason is therefore using the actions of non-trans people to punish trans people.
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Perhaps my definition of "worked up" is not the same as yours. To me, it's a synonym for angry of pissed off. When I refer to a "procedure," I do not necessarily mean surgery. It would also involve things such as counseling and hormones, and I am cool with that.

All I'm saying is that people get irate over bogus trans - people who have some ulterior motive.

There is another group about whom I have read - children whose parents have decided, for their own reasons, to change the child's gender. To me, this is a form of child abuse, but it isn't very common.
 
I've seen people get fairly angry and pissed off. There's numerous threads that are clearly not on the side of trans people on the GB - I'm interacting with you on another one right now. Why do people even care?

Boxlicker101 said:
Perhaps my definition of "worked up" is not the same as yours. To me, it's a synonym for angry of pissed off. When I refer to a "procedure," I do not necessarily mean surgery. It would also involve things such as counseling and hormones, and I am cool with that.

All I'm saying is that people get irate over bogus trans - people who have some ulterior motive.

There is another group about whom I have read - children whose parents have decided, for their own reasons, to change the child's gender. To me, this is a form of child abuse, but it isn't very common.
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KimGordon67 said:
This is a serious question. I've seen it again and again on the GB - some issue related to transgender folk that's, as far as I can tell, of no actual consequence to the everyday lives of 99.99% of the population, seems to get people amazingly worked up. Seeing as I don't come in contact with people who find this sort of thing upsetting in my everyday life, I'm curious as to what motivates people's extreme dislike of anything trans, or even have a negative reaction to specific issues.

It would be cool to get some considered responses to the question, so if anyone just wants to call me a lunatic ... well, I guess it doesn't matter so much, but it's a bit silly. If you're responses are based on something you're presented as 'fact', I'd also really appreciate some evidence to back that up, not just 'everyone knows', or 'the media is full of ...' whatever.
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This is a trifle one-sided once (again). It assigns blame to only one side.

The converse question is why are so many people wound up in insisting that all of society must be reordered around the needs of a little-understood condition?

;) ;)

PS - Anecdotal evidence is not fact, it is more along the lines of opinion. It's your opinion that you don't come in contact or that it affects not 99.9% of the population.

Here is one fact: The human brain has never once changed a human chromosome. The human brain is susceptible to malfunction and breakdown. Until we know more about the latter, we cannot assume that label of transgender is a normative condition that "everyone knows" is hard-wired into the brain. I would also humbly submit that some of my passion is the abuse of Science for political gain by division and attack.

Now, if you want to see real hate and passion on this board, start talking about abortion...
 
No one gives a shit

Just dont go into little girls room, dont call us haters when websay a 57nyr old man in a dress shouldn't go into the girls room

Dont teach it in kindergarten as a necessary

Etc
 
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It isnt true it doesnt impact 99 per cent

It is the 1 percent that infects us, treats us as haters n evil when we say

No Society doesn't have to change because of you just do what the f*** you want them leave us alone
 
BB4evah said:
No one gives a shit

Just dont go into little girls room, dont call us haters when websay a 57nyr old man in a dress shouldn't go into the girls room

Dont teach it in kindergarten as a necessary

Etc
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Reported.
 
Well yes of course. It's perfectly logical to create a policy for trans people based on what non trans people do very very rarely.

An absolute appropriate and rational response.
 
Boxlicker101 said:
What makes you think people get worked up over trans persons. Some do, of course, but most people believe in live and let live. I am referring here to people who are undergoing or have undergone sex change procedures.

However, many persons have very negative thoughts about some men who claim to actually be women and go into girl's or women's rest rooms and locker rooms in order to scope out the people who are using them. These would be men who don't look or act even a little bit female. I especially don't like it when it who is one of my granddaughters who is being peeped at.
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You're an idiot, your grnddaughter likes it.
 
Freaks of various kinds have been progressively (pun intended) mainstreamed for decades...retards, down syndrome, gay men, lesbians, gay marriage and now trannies.

Personally, I think all flamboyant quasi sexual public behavior is selfish and anti-social.

Most of us don't want to see most of it.

And last time I checked, our society runs by majority rule.

Minorities should assimilate, just as everyone else is expected to assimilate within the norms.

I don't toe-fuck 20-something nubiles in public.
 
Why are there wheelchair ramps everywhere I go? Why does society cater to such a small percentage of the population and makes us foot the bill for them? Same with MS research, I don't know anybody with MS.
 
KimGordon67 said:
This is a serious question. I've seen it again and again on the GB - some issue related to transgender folk that's, as far as I can tell, of no actual consequence to the everyday lives of 99.99% of the population, seems to get people amazingly worked up. Seeing as I don't come in contact with people who find this sort of thing upsetting in my everyday life, I'm curious as to what motivates people's extreme dislike of anything trans, or even have a negative reaction to specific issues.

It would be cool to get some considered responses to the question, so if anyone just wants to call me a lunatic ... well, I guess it doesn't matter so much, but it's a bit silly. If you're responses are based on something you're presented as 'fact', I'd also really appreciate some evidence to back that up, not just 'everyone knows', or 'the media is full of ...' whatever.
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People aren't upset with the existence of weird people, after all, they're everywhere. People are upset with the liberal notion that transgenderism is healthy, normal, and not rooted in mental illness. They're upset as well with the idea that they're perfectly suited for our armed forces ostensibly so they can receive their surgeries at taxpayer expense.
 
If we're fortunate, LadyFunkenstein will grace us with her presence to explain the issue to us. :rolleyes:
 
It's not transgenders or other minority groups who annoy me. It's the SJWers, particularly the Commonwealth and American whites and latinos.

It's obvious to me that many of them haven't bothered to leave their cocoons and interact with people who are different or think differently.
Because their idea of how minority groups think or function are so uni- dimensional or patronizing.

Plus it's the fad nowadays: if you want to feel relevant, keyboard -fight for a minority group. Just take your pick.
 
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