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Conager said:
The Russians can hack disassembled servers located in an FBI evidence locker? What clever bastards!
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He hopes they hacked Clinton's server, what makes you think he believes they should stop there? He certainly hasn't shown any evidence.
Or in Que's view, then it's obvious he wants them to continue.
 
about_average said:
He hopes they hacked Clinton's server, what makes you think he believes they should stop there? He certainly hasn't shown any evidence.
Or in Que's view, then it's obvious he wants them to continue.
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Damned shame, him enabling the Rooskies. Without his encouragement they probably would have retroactively kept their commie bastard hands off of her unguarded information.

Too right about his egging them on. They will probably shamelessly spy on us now like the NSA does on them.
 
The salient point is that not just the Russians, but even her political enemies (on her side) are spying on her...

;)

And knowing that, she ran a jerry-rigged system to ease her paranoia and hide her being bribed that just begged to be hacked. This is a woman whose personal flaws deeply affect her judgement.
 
Conager said:
Damned shame, him enabling the Rooskies. Without his encouragement they probably would have retroactively kept their commie bastard hands off of her unguarded information.

Too right about his egging them on. They will probably shamelessly spy on us now like the NSA does on them.
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True, all government and elected personnel should encourage enemies of the US to hack our systems. :rolleyes:
 
He could not have encouraged them to hack her, that is clear and Query is spot on on that point.

What he is asking is for them to release them.

Unless, Democrats have to keep them secret or lose the election.

We now know that what I, and some others, have been saying since Benghazi is true, our government was funneling arms to ISIS. Of course Mrs. Clinton lied about it under oath. How do we know this? Because her lax security and technological ignorance (not to mention the incompetency of her staff) led to her easily being hacked and the information forwarded to Wikilinks. And there is no proof that it was done by the Russians, it could have been done by almost any faction of the anti-war movement because as a neo-con hawk, her majesty would most certainly be in their sights...
 
about_average said:
True, all government and elected personnel should encourage enemies of the US to hack our systems. :rolleyes:
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Where do you get that from what I wrote? I'm saying it's shameful and I'm absolutely shocked that the Russians would spy on us and I'm quite certain that you're right that them being encouraged by our politicians is probably why they do it. If we just wouldn't encourage them they would stop.
 
Conager said:
Where do you get that from what I wrote? I'm saying it's shameful and I'm absolutely shocked that the Russians would spy on us and I'm quite certain that you're right that them being encouraged by our politicians is probably why they do it. If we just wouldn't encourage them they would stop.
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If they, as I said some time back, hack our government, shame on them.

If however, they hack a member of government who is so full of herself that she thinks she can ignore government rules and laws, then shame on her...
 
4est_4est_Gump said:
So why do I have to learn Trumpspeak?

:confused:

Why don't these clowns start a thread praising their candidate for having both the foresight to arm ISIS as well as possessing the hindsight that caused her to lie to Congress about it, under oath.

They are so fixated on proving how bad Donald Trump is that they have no time to comment about how their candidate went to FOX news and told lies about her use of classified material on her server.

And to top it off, their outrage over what Trump said to one family completely trumps any outrage that they might have when Hillary accuses TWO families of being liars because they were confused about her remarks of it being a movie that got their loved ones killed. For just how long did the administration purposely keep that lie alive?
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I think you probably understand Trump better than most, but that may be because you don't seem to be trying to interpret what he says in the way that will be most damaging to him.
 
toubab said:
I think you probably understand Trump better than most, but that may be because you don't seem to be trying to interpret what he says in the way that will be most damaging to him.
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I need some expert translation. Does Donald know Putin or not? He has claimed both and I don't understand. TYIA
 
about_average said:
Well, considering Trump has all but asked the Russians (at least 5 times, so it wasn't "sarcasm") to hack US computers, and considering that security experts have very serious concerns about the lack of security for our electronic election systems (they aren't even considered critical infrastructure) he might not be far wrong.


Yet you're the guy who claims to keep up with what Trump says. You're obviously very ill-informed.

As for the rest of your comment, it's just further evidence of your ignorance.

Why don't you take a moment and tell us how Trump working hard is a sacrifice, since that was is comeback to Capt. Khan's death in Iraq.
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Dumbass, Trump didn't ask the Russians to hack US computers. In case there is anybody who doesn't know, they have been spying on us in every way possible for many decades, and we've been doing the same to them. No invitation required.

I don't follow every word Trump says, or every question he's asked. Since you apparently do, who asked him the stupid fucking question you're so upset about? I'd also like to know how it was asked, exactly.

As for your last request, Trump is not a politician by trade. That's why he is not good at answering questions in the way a good politician would. He's terrible at that.
 
4est_4est_Gump said:
So why do I have to learn Trumpspeak?

:confused:

Why don't these clowns start a thread praising their candidate for having both the foresight to arm ISIS as well as possessing the hindsight that caused her to lie to Congress about it, under oath.

They are so fixated on proving how bad Donald Trump is that they have no time to comment about how their candidate went to FOX news and told lies about her use of classified material on her server.

And to top it off, their outrage over what Trump said to one family completely trumps any outrage that they might have when Hillary accuses TWO families of being liars because they were confused about her remarks of it being a movie that got their loved ones killed. For just how long did the administration purposely keep that lie alive?
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But, no, it's more important to know if Trump actually knows Putin...

Because a lie that significant surely disqualifies him.

:nods:
 
Adre said:
Nice deflection. Her lies awful, his lies insignificant. I knew Babe Ruth.
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His lies are minor league lies that are being hammered relentlessly by the press and democrat-leaning Independents to prevent any examination or criticism of Hillary for fear that the average voter can discern a politician whose first instinct is to tell a lie, even when the truth will do.

She could have said, before Congress, under oath, yes we did send arms to ISIS, we thought we made a choice of the lesser of two evils, but we were simply wrong in our assessment. The press would have immediately forgiven her, carried her water and attacked the credibility of anyone who might advance the notion that she has poor judgement. Instead, she just lied: We never did that.

You let me know when Trump's "lies" get to the profession level like Hillary's are...
 
4est_4est_Gump said:
His lies are minor league lies that are being hammered relentlessly by the press and democrat-leaning Independents to prevent any examination or criticism of Hillary for fear that the average voter can discern a politician whose first instinct is to tell a lie, even when the truth will do.

She could have said, before Congress, under oath, yes we did send arms to ISIS, we thought we made a choice of the lesser of two evils, but we were simply wrong in our assessment. The press would have immediately forgiven her, carried her water and attacked the credibility of anyone who might advance the notion that she has poor judgement. Instead, she just lied. We never did that.

You let me know when Trump's "lies" get to the profession level like Hillary's are...
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I'm on record more than once stating I believe all politicians lie. Although not a politician, Trump is a phony and a liar. If he weren't he would have released his tax returns months ago. We all know this. I'm interested in electing who is capable of governing and overseeing our military, not who has told fewer lies in their lives.
 
Okay, then why do you spend an inordinate amount of your time to Trump?

You're right, he is a character and an amateur politician who the press are set out to destroy.

The person he runs against is a congenital liar about her career in politics, who brazenly lies and even when caught lying, provably just insists that nobody has said that and continues lying knowing that the same press is going to protect her, try to elevate her, and give her carte blanche to tell the most outrageous lies about her time in government.

We do not know what kind of President Trump will be, but we know for a fact what kind she will be, she will lie to us, she will blame others for her bad judgement, she will hang out with Crony Capitalists and let them influence her decisions as long as she makes a profit on it and, we know for sure now, that she is a neo-con prone to military intervention.

She's out there lying about the source of emails. She's blaming the Russians...

:eek:

But by all means, let us debate about whether or not Trump knows Putin. There is this frightening lack of curiosity among the Trump haters at what Putin might know about Clinton based on her emails.
 
toubab said:
Interesting article. Hawks in the strangest places nowadays.
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It was the three women who bullied Obama into Egypt, Libya and Syria...

:eek:

But Donald Trump might not honor our commitment to NATO!

Hell, NATO's member states certainly don't honor their commitments.
 
Adre said:
Fortunately you have a sense of humor.
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Well, it's hard to take any of this seriously. I can't believe in a country of over three hundred million we've decided to make the next president Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.
 
With the way the Electoral College is set up this time around, I don't think Trump has any chance whatsoever of being elected - but I think it would be four years of funny if he were.

When he has to put all his assets in a blind trust - funny!

When Mexico tells him they aren't going to build a wall - funny!

When he issues a global edict and the rest of the world ignores him - funny!

When he tries to tell Congress what to do - funny!


The fact of the matter is, the President has a bully-pulpit but not much power. And there's nothing funnier than Trump on a bully-pulpit.
 
toubab said:
Well, it's hard to take any of this seriously. I can't believe in a country of over three hundred million we've decided to make the next president Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.
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Well, that's where we are. I have to deal with what I see, not what I'd like to see. For once I have to agree with AJ. With her we know, with him we haven't a clue. The devil I know...
 
toubab said:
I pay attention to the stuff Trump says. Close attention.
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toubab said:
I don't follow every word Trump says, or every question he's asked.
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So which story are you going with?

toubab said:
As for your last request, Trump is not a politician by trade. That's why he is not good at answering questions in the way a good politician would. He's terrible at that.
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Good point, only a politician would know to say, "Obviously I've not made a sacrifice that would hold a candle to Capt, Khan's."

And you call me a dumbass. :rolleyes:
 
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