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You rightly deserve the label "Islamophobe" because you fear Islam and the impact you think it has (or could potentially have) on society.
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You rightly deserve the label "Islamophobe" because you fear Islam and the impact you think it has (or could potentially have) on society.
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Now I am convinced that Sharia is not only scholarly, but oppressive too.
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The Question is:
Does Islam permit a man to hit his wife?
Of course, ….. But only if she doesn't do what she is told.
According to Sharia, a husband may strike his wife for any one of the following four reasons:
- She does not attempt to make herself beautiful for him (i.e. "let's herself go")
- She refuses to meet his sexual demands
- She leaves the house without his permission or a "legitimate reason"
- She neglects her religious duties
Any of these are also sufficient grounds for divorce.
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The Question is:
Does Islam permit a man to hit his wife?
Of course, ….. But only if she doesn't do what she is told.
According to Sharia, a husband may strike his wife for any one of the following four reasons:
- She does not attempt to make herself beautiful for him (i.e. "let's herself go")
- She refuses to meet his sexual demands
- She leaves the house without his permission or a "legitimate reason"
- She neglects her religious duties
Any of these are also sufficient grounds for divorce.
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You lifted that from a fake website meant to trick and frighten gullible people.
http://thechroniclesofislam.blogspot.com/2009/12/maintaining-discipline-in-islamic-home.html
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lol yep i was actually going to point that out and forgot, thanks for picking up the slack!
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Those sites are all over the web now....
There's never a shortage of stupid people that think they're legit.
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I hate when Imams are featured n Youtube videos stating to the interviewer that it is honorable for Muslim a man to beat a woman because it is yet another example of an oppressive mindset meant to keep women down.
I do like when Imams tell the interviewer that the Muslim man should not beat the woman in the face or make her ugly.
3 minute video that is scary
I do like when Imams tell the interviewer that the Muslim man should not beat the woman in the face or make her ugly.
3 minute video that is scary
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I do not understand why many non-Muslims, when faced with evidence of Islam's heavy handed brutal nature, refuse to distance themselves from the religion. How can Islam be a religion of Peace when such a high percentage of its followers act in non-peaceful ways? Ah, because their religious books tell them it's okay to act in such a manner.
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Just like all the Abrahamic religions ....bunch of fucking barbarians. Thanks for setting the human race back 700 years with the dark ages you fucking pricks.
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Pakistan is not immune. So much for the Religion of Peace. Where are the Islam lovers? Can't they help? Probably not... too busy bashing Christians.
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In Pakistan forced conversions to Islam, rapes and forced marriages are on the rise. The victims are mostly Hindu and Christian girls, belonging to religious minorities. A report sent to Fides by the Centre for Legal Assistance and Settlement (CLAAS), which takes care of legal assistance for Christians who are discriminated against and persecuted in Pakistan.
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In Pakistan forced conversions to Islam, rapes and forced marriages are on the rise. The victims are mostly Hindu and Christian girls, belonging to religious minorities. A report sent to Fides by the Centre for Legal Assistance and Settlement (CLAAS), which takes care of legal assistance for Christians who are discriminated against and persecuted in Pakistan.
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Should we blame a fanatical religion for this?
http://health.utah.gov/vipp/rapeSexualAssault/overview.html
Nitpick: The guy at the bottom, apparently kneeling and apparently about to die, he's a captive; the guys with their faces masked are captors.
Our ancestors shoulda stuck with gods who were satisfied with animal sacrifices and didn't demand moral commitments (and were themselves no moral examples). Coupling morality with God, that always seems to turn out wrong, somehow.
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it's really cool how you completely ignored the part where i posted a bunch of passages from the koran calling for peace and religious tolerance. people who call themselves muslim and rape and murder do so against the teachings of islam. they are not being good muslims. how do you not get this? why do you insist that all of these bad things are the fault of the religion and not the people who misinterpret it? or who have themselves been oppressed and invaded for decades if not centuries and are lashing out in anger?
also what "percentage" are you talking about here? do you have an actual number, or are you just making assumptions based on your own prejudices? do i even need to ask? again: 23% of the world's population are muslim. over a billion people. why do you keep insisting that they all believe the same things and act in the same ways?
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It outrages me when I read passages from the Koran... passages that make it blatantly clear that rape is allowed, and blessed, by Allah.
But there may be something similarly has hateful in the bible <very sarcastic>
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee" This is one of several personal-sounding verses "from Allah" narrated by Muhammad - in this case allowing himself a virtually unlimited supply of sex partners. Others are restrained to four wives, but may also have sex with any number of slaves, as the following verse make clear:
Qur'an (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..." This verse permits the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves. See also Qur'an (70:29-30).
Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." Even sex with married slaves is permissible.
Qur'an (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good" A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his "catch" because (according to verse 71) "Allah gave you mastery over them."
Qur'an (24:32) - "And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves..." Breeding slaves based on fitness.
Qur'an (2:178) - "O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female." The message of this verse, which prescribes the rules of retaliation for murder, is that all humans are not created equal. The human value of a slave is less than that of a free person (and a woman's worth is also distinguished from that of a man's).
Qur'an (16:75) - "Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favours from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means
praise be to Allah." Yet another confirmation that the slave is is not equal to the master. In this case it is plain that the slave owes his status to Allah's will. (According to 16:71, the owner should be careful about insulting Allah by bestowing Allah's gifts on slaves - those whom the god of Islam has not favored).
But there may be something similarly has hateful in the bible <very sarcastic>
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee" This is one of several personal-sounding verses "from Allah" narrated by Muhammad - in this case allowing himself a virtually unlimited supply of sex partners. Others are restrained to four wives, but may also have sex with any number of slaves, as the following verse make clear:
Qur'an (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..." This verse permits the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves. See also Qur'an (70:29-30).
Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." Even sex with married slaves is permissible.
Qur'an (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good" A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his "catch" because (according to verse 71) "Allah gave you mastery over them."
Qur'an (24:32) - "And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves..." Breeding slaves based on fitness.
Qur'an (2:178) - "O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female." The message of this verse, which prescribes the rules of retaliation for murder, is that all humans are not created equal. The human value of a slave is less than that of a free person (and a woman's worth is also distinguished from that of a man's).
Qur'an (16:75) - "Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favours from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means
praise be to Allah." Yet another confirmation that the slave is is not equal to the master. In this case it is plain that the slave owes his status to Allah's will. (According to 16:71, the owner should be careful about insulting Allah by bestowing Allah's gifts on slaves - those whom the god of Islam has not favored).
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It outrages me when I read passages from the Koran... passages that make it blatantly clear that rape is allowed, and blessed, by Allah.
But there may be something similarly has hateful in the bible <very sarcastic>
The Qur'an:
Qur'an (33:50) - "O Prophet! We have made lawful to thee thy wives to whom thou hast paid their dowers; and those (slaves) whom thy right hand possesses out of the prisoners of war whom Allah has assigned to thee" This is one of several personal-sounding verses "from Allah" narrated by Muhammad - in this case allowing himself a virtually unlimited supply of sex partners. Others are restrained to four wives, but may also have sex with any number of slaves, as the following verse make clear:
Qur'an (23:5-6) - "..who abstain from sex, except with those joined to them in the marriage bond, or (the captives) whom their right hands possess..." This verse permits the slave-owner to have sex with his slaves. See also Qur'an (70:29-30).
Qur'an (4:24) - "And all married women (are forbidden unto you) save those (captives) whom your right hands possess." Even sex with married slaves is permissible.
Qur'an (8:69) - "But (now) enjoy what ye took in war, lawful and good" A reference to war booty, of which slaves were a part. The Muslim slave master may enjoy his "catch" because (according to verse 71) "Allah gave you mastery over them."
Qur'an (24:32) - "And marry those among you who are single and those who are fit among your male slaves and your female slaves..." Breeding slaves based on fitness.
Qur'an (2:178) - "O ye who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the murdered; the freeman for the freeman, and the slave for the slave, and the female for the female." The message of this verse, which prescribes the rules of retaliation for murder, is that all humans are not created equal. The human value of a slave is less than that of a free person (and a woman's worth is also distinguished from that of a man's).
Qur'an (16:75) - "Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favours from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means
hey it's really cool how you keep getting your info from an extremely biased and misleading hate site!
why don't we look at an actual modern scriptural perspective from actual muslims?
source
and if you worried about the acceptance of slavery in the koran you should probably realize it was written in a time when slavery was a socially acceptable phenomena worldwide, and the the bible also permits the regulated owning of slaves!
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What does it feel like to have hate swell up in your soul so that you succumb gladly to broad generalizations?
What is it like to not marvel at the different ways in which people share god? What is it like to be so filled with hate that you don't see love in others different from you?
I pity you PSW.
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I pity those that fail to see the horrors of Islam. I pity those that make excuses for the followers of Islam. Excuses like "some are bad, but very, very, few."
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oh dear, pornstar, dude, you do realize that a link to a google image search doesn't count as evidence of any kind? please find a credible source that proves that a significant percentage of muslims believe in murder and rape due to the teachings of the koran or please stop posting, maybe forever.
i've tried to be reasonable with you for some time now but you aren't paying attention to anything that contradicts your worldview and i'm frankly sick of it.
please explain why you feel the way you do about muslims (as a group, as 23% of the world's population) and, more importantly, what you think should be done about it.
nobody is defending domestic abuse or beheading prisoners, nobody is arguing that anyone should be given a pass on account of their religion. we simply want you to justify why you think these values are an integral part of the islamic faith and shared by over a billion people, based on the available evidence. tia.
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While 1/4 of the World's population is Muslim, it saddens me that 10-15% of Muslims (an estimate) are fundamentalists... meaning that they are all for interpreting their religions books to suit that oppressive beliefs - tape/murder/oppression in the eys of the West. But to the fundamentalist Muslim, these acts are not criminal... they are allowed according to Mohammad for these acts are focused on Infidels.
It saddens me that the books are not the only guidance used by fundamentalist Muslims. The Fundamental Imam's word is gospel.
And finally, it saddens me when the West refuses to accept the fact that 10-15% of all Muslims can be a very large number of people looking to force their will on the World. A will I want no part of.
It saddens me that the books are not the only guidance used by fundamentalist Muslims. The Fundamental Imam's word is gospel.
And finally, it saddens me when the West refuses to accept the fact that 10-15% of all Muslims can be a very large number of people looking to force their will on the World. A will I want no part of.
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A positive blurt? Can it be? No such thing. false alarm.
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