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The only thing I don´t like about the literary saga is that it isn´t finished, and the author may very well pass away before finishing it.
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Happy Easter to you as well LI. I'll look forward to it.
*glances at his new av and cracks up*
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I'm contemplating a char for here. Would the Targaryens still have a contribution? I'm only basing off what I've seen from the show thus far (thanks again, puddin') so I'm not quite sure on the impact those chars make.I just really liked the idea of the wandering displaced royals trying to regain their status.... and the current state between Dany, her brother, and Drogo.
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That's a pretty hard question for me to effectively answer with any confidence, Lily. I have been struggling with it since I first started conceptualizing the thread. The difficulty with the Targaryen's being active characters in our story is two fold.
1. They would not be welcome within Westeros or safe within its borders. How would they interact? Even in the novels, as is my understanding, their story is more like a side-story.
2. They are distinctly featured. Platinum blonde hair. Violet eyes. That's extremely strange by standards otherwise found in Westeros. It would be very difficult, if not impossible, to hide them.
I'd really like to hear ideas from the rest of the crew about how we could include them, however, because I think that their presence would have a dramatic effect on how some of the characters behaved.
1. They would not be welcome within Westeros or safe within its borders. How would they interact? Even in the novels, as is my understanding, their story is more like a side-story.
2. They are distinctly featured. Platinum blonde hair. Violet eyes. That's extremely strange by standards otherwise found in Westeros. It would be very difficult, if not impossible, to hide them.
I'd really like to hear ideas from the rest of the crew about how we could include them, however, because I think that their presence would have a dramatic effect on how some of the characters behaved.
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I'm glad you approve, DW.
I like the idea, I do. However, to make things easier on yourself I would suggest picking a House from the Seven Kingdoms.
On the other hand, this wouldn't be too difficult to pull off with some fine tuning. Since we aren't playing by the cards laid down in the books/tv series, we aren't bound by them.
That being said, you could play that role as a recently returned exile, with an army of your own. This whole time (Just like in the books) she was gaining her army and growing in power and influence. With the King dead, it would give her the perfect opportunity to claim what is rightfully hers and who is to stop her? The other Houses could decide to follow her. The army she brings could be used to help convince the other Houses., etc etc.
To further this point, she could have already taken portions of Westeros for her own, such as Kings Landing. With the army up north it would be the best time to attack and with the King gone, then dead, it would be nothing to usurp his throne.
Meh, let me know what you guys and gals think.
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I like this idea, alot. The Bartheons diden't exactly treat the Targryans well, and I'm pretty fond of them as a whole; even if some where insane. Surely, house Damihell would at least concider supporting them, especially if they need boats to get across the sea.
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I -do- like the idea of a Targaryen attempting to reclaim the Throne. I think it would lend strength to the story if King's Landing were to fall and the Great Houses were to be forced to address the threat immediately after victory over The Others.
The pressure that will put upon our characters, and the story, could only ever be a good thing. That will, however, also require Lily to write on her own for some time.
I'm not adverse to it.
My only request on this might end up being a strange one. I would like very much if the Targaryen's were still prone to engaging in the practice of incest. My reason for this is that it remains one of the primary differences between the Targaryen's and the House Stark.
Edit to Clarify:
I do not mean that Lily has to have her character be incestuous. I only mean that the practice should still have a historical place within the Targaryen legacy.
The pressure that will put upon our characters, and the story, could only ever be a good thing. That will, however, also require Lily to write on her own for some time.
I'm not adverse to it.
My only request on this might end up being a strange one. I would like very much if the Targaryen's were still prone to engaging in the practice of incest. My reason for this is that it remains one of the primary differences between the Targaryen's and the House Stark.
Edit to Clarify:
I do not mean that Lily has to have her character be incestuous. I only mean that the practice should still have a historical place within the Targaryen legacy.
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Gah. Not sure if I get the storyline enough to pull the "threatening" level off that well. I've got some basic understandings, and have also been wandering the Wiki on the book series (There's already one of the show... It's been, what, a week since it premiered?!).
The incest thing I can understand. Writing that alone might be a bit... odd, though I think I may be able to puppyeye someone into helping me via a messenger in that department.
I'll ponder it up a bit more, bounce a few thoughts off Soru on AIM.
If I can find him.
The incest thing I can understand. Writing that alone might be a bit... odd, though I think I may be able to puppyeye someone into helping me via a messenger in that department.
I'll ponder it up a bit more, bounce a few thoughts off Soru on AIM.
If I can find him.
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Gotcha.
Well, what I had meant was that she took King's Landing during the war. When everyone is at Winterfell, she would show up under a white flag (as to not start another war) but still have her army behind her. She wants all of Westeros and thus starts the Game of Thrones. What side will you choose? Who do you back? How many sides are there? etc etc etc...
The incest thing would be fine if it stayed in the past. My reasoning for this would be that if this current Targeryen goes by that tradition she'd need a brother, either a player or an NPC. With the player, you have two writers locked into a relationship. That can be limiting. With an NPC, you have a writer that is needlessly taxing themselves to write not just another person but a relationship as well.
Call me bias but it would be more fun to try and court the Warrior Queen. There's nothing Triston likes more than the hunt.
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OK, a mini talk with Soru gave me some thoughts.
PM you in a bit, Iceman.
PM you in a bit, Iceman.
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Yes, it also confused me, but the clarification was helpful. 'Lily should acknowledge that it's a tradition of her people, but that she knows she'll need to break from it to gain support for the Throne. Also, no point mentioning Daenerys at all, I should think, just because of...well, I don't want to post spoilers for those who haven't read the book. But there are reasons that she should be somewhat ignored in the backstory. A Targaryen character should just be simply called "A descendant of exiled Targeryens" or something to that extent.
I also see her as a somewhat late addition to the story. I'm not saying 'Lily is going to have to wait for the thread to get going for a few weeks, but I figure she can write a post about boarding ships to sail back, then we can start hearing rumors about invaders from across the sea taking DragonStone, and then she can take King's Landing, while the realm is already in chaos and the Game of Thrones is well begun. It would be fun because it would give our characters time to begin formulating plans, and she could just force everything to be blown up.
Of course, we'd still have the issue of whether a woman would claim the Iron Throne...
Agreed. Not to mention it all depends on her backing. She would already have a sizable army, territory in Westeros (by the time she gets to Winterfell), and her lineage. Also, the other houses could choose to back her or not.
Man, just talking about all the possibilities is getting me REALLY excited.
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Well, there was the whole major-revolution-with-the-support-of-most-of-Westros overthrowing them issue. I'm sorry if I sound like I'm "warning" again, but I think her birth would actually be a hindernce, unless she just tried to take over Dragonstone; loyalism would still be alive there, certainly.
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Just a quick update: I should be done with my character by tomorrow afternoon..... I'm in the process of polishing her up; I just thought I'd let everyone know.
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Nods. Just in time for the thread to kick off.
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I'm also curious, how long do you think we'll be keeping events centered around Winterfell? I mean, it's nice to have all of our playable characters in one place, but the more ambitious of us would probably also want to head home very quickly upon learning of a power void in order to strength their own power bases. Additionally, Winterfell being what and where it is, there's probably issues in keeping armies fed, even though the armies have been decimated after fighting Others.
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Not long.
Infact, I imagine most of the Lords will send their armies on away from the walls of Winterfell almost immediately. Those that linger will be there for politics, to attend a series of meetings designed to plan what goes on from there and to begin to assert their political positions given the recent power vacuum.
I imagine that before terribly long, however, everyone will be eager to leave the Castle of Winterfell and return to King's Landing for better weather, more indulgent settings, and "civilization".
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Name: Agnes Wensington
Age: 19 years old
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 143
Titles: Lady of Persistence
Family:
Lord Galeron Wensington--Father (57 years old)
Lady Monessa Wesington (née Swygert)--Mother (49 years old)
Galeron Wensingtion II--Brother (Deceased; 27 years old)
Lander Wensington--Brother (Deceased; 23 years old)
Everand Wensington--Brother (15 years old)
History:
The Wensington House has been loyal to House Baratheon and many of the lesser Nobel houses of the Stormlands for quite some time. The exact era that Wensington House was founded in the Stormlands is unknown, but their men have been identified throughout the ages as being strong, unrelenting warriors. Their sigil is two golden trumpets crossed on blue, a gold chief with three black stags, and their words are "Sound the Charge".
Perhaps one of the few men the King himself has complete trust in, Lord Wensington of Wendwater has served as the King's confidant for many years. He carried out many strategic factions against the Others (mostly on the front line) and suffered many losses in men; however, his allegiance to the king is un-swayed, and, as far as it can be stipulated, for no particular gain to him: he lost his two eldest sons on two separate occasions in battle against the Others. Lord Wensington married into the Swygert House predominantly for holdings and support, though, he was and to this day still is ardently in love with his Lady, Monessa Wensington (née Swygert); he has never once engaged in dishonorable activities with common stales, though temptations have met him many a time. He is most known for being well learned and showing kindness towards all people (Male, Female, Lord, Lady, Commoner, etc.) in first meeting; he is a tall, portly fellow with a bushy salt and pepper beard, black hair complimented with silver strands near his temples, and a hearty laugh. His well-known battle technique is to indomitably take on the largest enemy on the battlefield once the charge has be sounded, which, to date, has never failed.
Herstory:
Agnes Wensington was born a bastard. There are only three living people who know that her last name SHOULD be Storm: they are the Lady Wensington, the Lord Wensington, and the King (her father). Her tale began twenty years ago when, by chance, the King (having many relations throughout his reign) laid with a common woman of no historic importance. The result, of course, nine months later was: she, a brown haired brown eyed illegitimate princess to the throne. Tragically, the insignificant commoner mother passed away giving birth to the child: the details of how the King was made aware of the situation, or, for that matter, why he even cared is unknown, but he did ward the child to his fellowman, Lord Galeron Wensington, after hearing word that his man's Lady gave birth to a stillborn female child. The King wanted absolutely no part in the child's life, to him she was a mistake made in the lusty throes of passion with what's-her-name (at least, that is the front he successfully conveyed). It wasn't common practice, mind, but the King knew he could trust his closest friend with keeping the secret locked away as long as he could assist in mending Lady Wensington's broken heart. And mend it he did. The Lady, still in a fragile state, took the child under her wing and nursed her, clothed her, and, throughout the beginning of her life, taught her all the developmental necessities of a female infant-thru-toddler; a wet-nurse took the academic role thereafter, especially with the birth of Agnes's youngest brother.
Agnes Wensington is the only 'sister' of three 'brothers': the eldest and six years her senior, Galeron Wensington II (killed in action), three years her senior, Lander Wensington (killed in action), and the youngest Wensington, Everand (three years her junior). Unsurprisingly, she is a bit of a tomboy, despite her lovely outer visage; she's well versed in poetry, and flawless in all the things a lady should be, as well as some things a lady shouldn't be: she's an excellent sparrer, perhaps the best her age that are still alive in her kingdom. She is best known for her perseverance and perfectionistic ideals (hints the title 'lady of persistence'); she is very intelligent and witty, though, she often wastes her intellect so not to embarrass her 'father' in social settings (any other time, however, she is allowed to freely express herself.) She has not yet been married off, which, to her is fortunate: at present a man has not completely blown her away; they all seem the same to her: power hungry and greedy and she will have no part in that. Of course, the true reason, unbeknownst to her, is because her 'father', a rather crafty man, has been seeking a man worthy of his adopted bastard princess so that he can gain more political ground if the King were to die. And even then he would only be leery about the matter, discussing her lineage may bring about a fight he would be unmanned for: or worse, her head on a platter to whomever threw the right amount of holdings out as bounty. But, in the same instance, it'll be more difficult to marry her off the older she gets, so, after the war, her fate will reside completely in the hands of her 'father'.
Let us hope she will appreciate what is to come, when the situation does arise.
Lady Agnes's Retinue:
Mathurin Rhywend--Wensington Guard (45)--a very soft spoken individual, Mathurin to the untrained eye may seem a bit of a push over. To suggest that would be insulting him, his honor, and every fiber of his make-up: it's just best to not say anything. One of Lord Wensington's strongest fighters, Mathurin Rhywend was asked to stay in Wendwater (along with his twin brother, Sperling) to guard Lady Wensington and the remaining Wensington children. Mathurin was forced to travel with Lady Agnes by Lady Monessa Wensington's orders. The House Rhywend is loyal to House Wensington, though, they offer very little holdings (being a poor family).
Cedany --Lady Agnes's Attendant (29)--a very gentle and polite young woman, Cedany was appointed as Lady Agnes's attendant on Agnes's thirteenth birthday. She had already assisted her mother (the family's wet nurse) with Lady Agnes predating the appointment, and had quite the rapport with her: they treat each other the way a an older and younger sister would. Wherever her lady travels, she is at her side, without hesitation.
Drustan Swygert--One of five appointed Sentries of House Wensington; Uncle (53)--Second Eldest brother of Lady Monessa Wensington, Drustand Swygert was appointed to be Sentry at House Wensington nearly a day after the two families merged (he never really liked the look of Lord Galeron Wensington). His loyalties mainly lie with his sister, her children, and his own house,( he often shows this attitude towards Lord Wensington fearlessly) but, of course, he'd never trade in the Wensington house's safety on account of his distrust of Lord Wensington.
Alaric Swygert--Volunteered Guard of Lady Agnes; Cousin; Son of Drustan Swygert (22)--A completely restless soul (due to limited eyesight), Alaric jumped at the chance of grand adventure when he overheard Lady Wensington ask his father to escort her only daughter to Winterfell after receiving a disturbing letter from her husband. Despite his faults, he is a very well learned young man with many prospective ladies to take the hand of: his main objective in escorting the Lady Agnes is to see the countryside before settling down and starting a family.
[[ I specifically chose House Wensington because it had the least amount of information: I work my best when I am allowed to use my imagination. Also, I thought it would be ironic for the unknown bastard heir to have a crest with inverted arms of House Baratheon. Why not have her hidden in plain sight?]]
Name: Agnes Wensington
Age: 19 years old
Height: 5'9"
Weight: 143
Titles: Lady of Persistence
Family:
Lord Galeron Wensington--Father (57 years old)
Lady Monessa Wesington (née Swygert)--Mother (49 years old)
Galeron Wensingtion II--Brother (Deceased; 27 years old)
Lander Wensington--Brother (Deceased; 23 years old)
Everand Wensington--Brother (15 years old)
History:
The Wensington House has been loyal to House Baratheon and many of the lesser Nobel houses of the Stormlands for quite some time. The exact era that Wensington House was founded in the Stormlands is unknown, but their men have been identified throughout the ages as being strong, unrelenting warriors. Their sigil is two golden trumpets crossed on blue, a gold chief with three black stags, and their words are "Sound the Charge".
Perhaps one of the few men the King himself has complete trust in, Lord Wensington of Wendwater has served as the King's confidant for many years. He carried out many strategic factions against the Others (mostly on the front line) and suffered many losses in men; however, his allegiance to the king is un-swayed, and, as far as it can be stipulated, for no particular gain to him: he lost his two eldest sons on two separate occasions in battle against the Others. Lord Wensington married into the Swygert House predominantly for holdings and support, though, he was and to this day still is ardently in love with his Lady, Monessa Wensington (née Swygert); he has never once engaged in dishonorable activities with common stales, though temptations have met him many a time. He is most known for being well learned and showing kindness towards all people (Male, Female, Lord, Lady, Commoner, etc.) in first meeting; he is a tall, portly fellow with a bushy salt and pepper beard, black hair complimented with silver strands near his temples, and a hearty laugh. His well-known battle technique is to indomitably take on the largest enemy on the battlefield once the charge has be sounded, which, to date, has never failed.
Herstory:
Agnes Wensington was born a bastard. There are only three living people who know that her last name SHOULD be Storm: they are the Lady Wensington, the Lord Wensington, and the King (her father). Her tale began twenty years ago when, by chance, the King (having many relations throughout his reign) laid with a common woman of no historic importance. The result, of course, nine months later was: she, a brown haired brown eyed illegitimate princess to the throne. Tragically, the insignificant commoner mother passed away giving birth to the child: the details of how the King was made aware of the situation, or, for that matter, why he even cared is unknown, but he did ward the child to his fellowman, Lord Galeron Wensington, after hearing word that his man's Lady gave birth to a stillborn female child. The King wanted absolutely no part in the child's life, to him she was a mistake made in the lusty throes of passion with what's-her-name (at least, that is the front he successfully conveyed). It wasn't common practice, mind, but the King knew he could trust his closest friend with keeping the secret locked away as long as he could assist in mending Lady Wensington's broken heart. And mend it he did. The Lady, still in a fragile state, took the child under her wing and nursed her, clothed her, and, throughout the beginning of her life, taught her all the developmental necessities of a female infant-thru-toddler; a wet-nurse took the academic role thereafter, especially with the birth of Agnes's youngest brother.
Agnes Wensington is the only 'sister' of three 'brothers': the eldest and six years her senior, Galeron Wensington II (killed in action), three years her senior, Lander Wensington (killed in action), and the youngest Wensington, Everand (three years her junior). Unsurprisingly, she is a bit of a tomboy, despite her lovely outer visage; she's well versed in poetry, and flawless in all the things a lady should be, as well as some things a lady shouldn't be: she's an excellent sparrer, perhaps the best her age that are still alive in her kingdom. She is best known for her perseverance and perfectionistic ideals (hints the title 'lady of persistence'); she is very intelligent and witty, though, she often wastes her intellect so not to embarrass her 'father' in social settings (any other time, however, she is allowed to freely express herself.) She has not yet been married off, which, to her is fortunate: at present a man has not completely blown her away; they all seem the same to her: power hungry and greedy and she will have no part in that. Of course, the true reason, unbeknownst to her, is because her 'father', a rather crafty man, has been seeking a man worthy of his adopted bastard princess so that he can gain more political ground if the King were to die. And even then he would only be leery about the matter, discussing her lineage may bring about a fight he would be unmanned for: or worse, her head on a platter to whomever threw the right amount of holdings out as bounty. But, in the same instance, it'll be more difficult to marry her off the older she gets, so, after the war, her fate will reside completely in the hands of her 'father'.
Let us hope she will appreciate what is to come, when the situation does arise.
Lady Agnes's Retinue:
Mathurin Rhywend--Wensington Guard (45)--a very soft spoken individual, Mathurin to the untrained eye may seem a bit of a push over. To suggest that would be insulting him, his honor, and every fiber of his make-up: it's just best to not say anything. One of Lord Wensington's strongest fighters, Mathurin Rhywend was asked to stay in Wendwater (along with his twin brother, Sperling) to guard Lady Wensington and the remaining Wensington children. Mathurin was forced to travel with Lady Agnes by Lady Monessa Wensington's orders. The House Rhywend is loyal to House Wensington, though, they offer very little holdings (being a poor family).
Cedany --Lady Agnes's Attendant (29)--a very gentle and polite young woman, Cedany was appointed as Lady Agnes's attendant on Agnes's thirteenth birthday. She had already assisted her mother (the family's wet nurse) with Lady Agnes predating the appointment, and had quite the rapport with her: they treat each other the way a an older and younger sister would. Wherever her lady travels, she is at her side, without hesitation.
Drustan Swygert--One of five appointed Sentries of House Wensington; Uncle (53)--Second Eldest brother of Lady Monessa Wensington, Drustand Swygert was appointed to be Sentry at House Wensington nearly a day after the two families merged (he never really liked the look of Lord Galeron Wensington). His loyalties mainly lie with his sister, her children, and his own house,( he often shows this attitude towards Lord Wensington fearlessly) but, of course, he'd never trade in the Wensington house's safety on account of his distrust of Lord Wensington.
Alaric Swygert--Volunteered Guard of Lady Agnes; Cousin; Son of Drustan Swygert (22)--A completely restless soul (due to limited eyesight), Alaric jumped at the chance of grand adventure when he overheard Lady Wensington ask his father to escort her only daughter to Winterfell after receiving a disturbing letter from her husband. Despite his faults, he is a very well learned young man with many prospective ladies to take the hand of: his main objective in escorting the Lady Agnes is to see the countryside before settling down and starting a family.
[[ I specifically chose House Wensington because it had the least amount of information: I work my best when I am allowed to use my imagination. Also, I thought it would be ironic for the unknown bastard heir to have a crest with inverted arms of House Baratheon. Why not have her hidden in plain sight?]]
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