dog sexually assaults toddler
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This is crazy. How the hell does a dog pin down and sodomize a toddler without the toddler being bit and screaming and trying to get away? How could the parents not know what was going on? I realize dogs hump things, but can they actually mount and penetrate without assistance?
A vet is doing a DNA test, probably to make sure that this is what really happened.
A vet is doing a DNA test, probably to make sure that this is what really happened.
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Something is worng here.Image said:
Either it is a cover up for the extensive damage that was caused OR, the parents are into dogs and kids and had something to do with how it all happened
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Emerald Eyed said:
Yes...having ruminated, a very disturbing set of possibilities has come up. Some twisted shit that went badly wrong when the dog went to town on the kid? I hope not.
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Avalon38 said:
Yes, I was wondering that too. I'm glad that they are doing DNA testing.
But there's also this. It's a dog. They hump human legs when given a chance. If an unneutered male was excited and looking for a target, I wouldn't count on the native intelligence of the dog to prevent the event from occurring. I agree that the issue of the diaper and how long it would take for this to happen raise serious questions that really need to be investigated. But I wouldn't say it was impossible for the dog to conceive the urge and try to act on it.
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Soo..any "samples" left behind?
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Image said:
Well, now... ease up a minute there. I only read what was in the post here; I didn't see the "left alone" part, for one thing; also, the boy was not six months old -- he was two! At two, it would not be unusual for people to allow their child to wander around a baby-proofed house, as I'm sure the dog did.
In any event, I think the boy should be put down and the dog should be banned for violating its Terms of Service.
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Emerald Eyed said:
That was exactly my first thought as well, EM, but I decided not to make that comment until a subsequent report comes in from the investigators. It's very hard for people to live down even false accusations like that, so I will not entertain that thought until I get some more info.
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You are right.Karen Kraft said:
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... and I saw a 48-hours type show where a 14 (tried as an adult) was accused of sexually assaulting a 23 month old he was babysitting, then shaking her to death. The evidence showed that the baby had eczema and damaged her vaginal parts (they were typically vague on the TV show) scratching the itch. The “experts” went on and on how this chubby 14-year-old honor student, who had no history of wrong-doing of any kind, killed the little girl to cover up his sexual assault. Of course, there was no evidence of sexual assault and, halfway through the trial, that part was dropped, I understand, but the murder part stood all the way to a jury requital. To overcome the “experts” (who will testify that the Earth is flat if you pay them enough to do so), the defense actually had to call the STATE MEDICAL EXAMINER!!! The director of the stiffs shop for the entire state – a state employee! He said the little girl died of a terminal brain disease and that there was no sign of criminal homicide in her death. But the prosecutors, needless to say, went after the babysitter gang-busters. The video of the “interview” down at the cop shop was more nauseating than the death of the little girl! The cost to the family was slightly over $400,000 in defending their boy.
Just like the prosecutor in the Nappy Hoes case, these guys (gals, too, I suppose) get the top jobs not by being fair or administering justice, buy by grabbing headlines and rushing off to trial, knowing the press will vilify whomever the State accuses.
So, I would hesitate to even infer that the family had something to do with the boy’s sodomization. Even speculation in that regard can leave a very unfair taint to an otherwise fine reputation – for life.
Just like the prosecutor in the Nappy Hoes case, these guys (gals, too, I suppose) get the top jobs not by being fair or administering justice, buy by grabbing headlines and rushing off to trial, knowing the press will vilify whomever the State accuses.
So, I would hesitate to even infer that the family had something to do with the boy’s sodomization. Even speculation in that regard can leave a very unfair taint to an otherwise fine reputation – for life.
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Emerald Eyed said:
Thanks, EM. I didn't see your post in reply, as I was being long-winded (as usual) in my next post.
I should have my fingers broken.
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Its ok. You are right though, that is a tough accusation and I hope that they are fair and accurate in their investigation.Karen Kraft said:
It is sad though that this day in age we just start assuming the worst
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BlackShanglan said:
Dogs hump.
They hump legs, pillows, stuffed animals, each other, kids, tires, etc.
There are thousands of documented cases of humans raping non-humans, but I've never heard of one case of an animal raping a human. The authorities have never heard of a case such as this, either, as they're trying to find animal behaviorists that can help assist in the investigation.
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Emerald Eyed said:
Yup. And that's because, unlike in the old days, where the rapers of women and children (not in reference to this thread, folks) were executed, today they are released after Dr. Getwell says that they are "all better." I will always support the death penalty for those who feloniously injure the innocent!
Read the newspapers from the 20s, 30, and even the 40s. If some guy raped a girl, woman, child (or boy/man for that matter), they executed him.
Now days, the ALWAYS GET OUT. ...eventually.
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Karen Kraft said:
Agreed. However, it's difficult to imagine that *some* sort of reputation won't be following them whatever happened, given the alternative explanation for the damage.
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Emerald Eyed said:
Well, to be fair, when the thing that is alleged to have happened is so completely bizarre and unheard-of, I think it's natural to wonder if it actually happened. I don't think that that means that people automatically assume the worst of other people's motives - just that they look at the facts available and wonder if there hasn't got to be some explanation that is less strange.
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Unless a husband raped his wife.Karen Kraft said:
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Update
Smell of dirty diaper may have triggered the attack.
By April Amadon/amadona@gnnewspaper.com
The Tonawanda News
Many unanswered questions remain in the wake of Sunday’s bizarre pit bull attack on a Washburn Street boy.
Police say a 2-year-old boy was alone with the family’s pit bull for only minutes when he was attacked and sodomized by the dog, a family pet that had never before shown any signs of aggression.
Lockport Police Detective Capt. Larry Eggert said the toddler had removed his own soiled diaper and asked to be changed just before the attack. His mother sent him into the living room to get a new diaper, Eggert said.
The boy was alone with the dog for only a brief time, Eggert said.
When the mother heard the boy scream, she walked into the living room and found the dog had mounted the child, Eggert said. The mother reportedly began yelling at the dog, which spooked it, causing it to run out the door and onto the porch, still attached to the boy.
Neighbors saw what was happening and helped the mother beat the dog to get it off the boy, Eggert said.
The pit bull, a 2-year-old named Bear, was impounded this week at the Niagara County SPCA and was said to be going to the Erie County shelter.
Niagara County SPCA Executive Director Al Chille said he’s fielded dozens of calls about the dog, many from out-of-state, and the overwhelming sentiment has been in favor of the dog.
“It’s been, ‘Save the dog, investigate the family,’ ” Chille said.
Eggert said the family has been “very open, very cooperative” with police.
Investigators have conducted several interviews and are working in conjunction with the Niagara County District Attorney’s office to determine if charges will eventually be pressed, but nothing has been determined yet.
The boy continues to recover at Women’s and Children’s Hospital in Buffalo, where he underwent surgery earlier in the week. Eggert said he’s heard the boy is doing better.
The dog, which had been with the family since it was a puppy, was up-to-date on all its shots, including rabies, Eggert said.
Now, investigators are looking at the question on everyone’s mind: What would motivate a family dog with no history of aggression to do something like this?
Behavioral specialists will be brought in to study the dog and try to figure out what triggered the attack.
“Because of the shocking nature of the case, you just want to make sure there’s nothing left unturned,” Eggert said.
Holly Hackmer, a veterinary technician at Brighton-Eggert Animal Clinic in Tonawanda, said she believes the dog may have smelled something in the air that triggered the attack.
“Maybe this dog smelled a female going into heat in the area,” she said. “We see dogs jump through windows, go through doors. They become overly aggressive. It’s the testosterone running through their system.”
Madeline Friedman, owner of Innovative Reality Dog Training and Behavior Consulting in New York City, said the dog could have even smelled something on the child.
Friedman — who prefers to call the incident an “anomaly” instead of a “sexual attack” — said dogs have over 250 million scent detectors in their noses, while humans have only 5 million. Several things could have contributed to the smells in the air that day, including the early-afternoon humidity and the fact that the boy had just removed a dirty diaper.
“Human bodies are always giving off scents,” she said. “For all we know, (the child) may have had some kind of urinary tract infection, which would cause the smell of the child to be really kind of motivating to the dog to explore the scent.”
Friedman said it’s difficult to pin down the dog’s motivation, but it was likely not malicious.
“It appears to be more a misunderstanding of dogs’ senses,” she said. “It is highly unlikely that the dog was motivated by sex-seeking from this child in any way whatsoever.”
The behavior could have even been unconsciously encouraged by the child’s family.
“Maybe the dog sniffed the diaper before, and maybe the parents thought it was funny,” she said.
The incident has sparked furious debate about pit bulls, a breed notorious for aggressive behavior.
A study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released in 2000 named pit bulls and rottweilers as the two breeds most often involved in bite-related fatalities.
Sunday’s incident was one of two that day in the city involving pit bulls; a pit bull attacked a Labrador in a Willow Street backyard that same afternoon. In that case, the lab’s owner reportedly had to beat the pit bull will a hockey stick to get it to break the hold it had on his dog’s neck.
On May 24, the Niagara County Drug Task Force was executing a search warrant on a North Transit Street home when the homeowner’s pit bull reportedly lunged at a task force member, prompting the member to shoot the pit bull in his own defense.
In February, a Fox Hunt Drive woman told sheriff’s deputies a neighbor’s pit bull ran out of its hard and bit her dog on the neck.
Though several groups have called for a ban on pit bulls, New York State law prohibits breed-specific legislation.
Chille said people have a natural fear of the breed as it has gained notoriety in recent years. In the last three decades, other dog breeds such as spaniels, rottweilers and German shepherds have received the same attention, he said.
Chille has said the family of the young boy attacked on Sunday wants the dog to be euthanized, but that has not been decided yet.
Friedman said it would be “a shame” if the dog were euthanized.
“It sounds to me like the dog had very little training. If the family doesn’t want to keep the dog, I think the dog could be successfully re-homed,” she said. “It is not my belief this dog is a danger.”
In the meantime, the dog will remain at the SPCA until its fate is decided.
“Unfortunately this happened to be a pit bull,” Friedman said. “I’m wondering, if this had been a goofy yellow Lab, if the outcry would have been the same.”
Smell of dirty diaper may have triggered the attack.
By April Amadon/amadona@gnnewspaper.com
The Tonawanda News
Many unanswered questions remain in the wake of Sunday’s bizarre pit bull attack on a Washburn Street boy.
Police say a 2-year-old boy was alone with the family’s pit bull for only minutes when he was attacked and sodomized by the dog, a family pet that had never before shown any signs of aggression.
Lockport Police Detective Capt. Larry Eggert said the toddler had removed his own soiled diaper and asked to be changed just before the attack. His mother sent him into the living room to get a new diaper, Eggert said.
The boy was alone with the dog for only a brief time, Eggert said.
When the mother heard the boy scream, she walked into the living room and found the dog had mounted the child, Eggert said. The mother reportedly began yelling at the dog, which spooked it, causing it to run out the door and onto the porch, still attached to the boy.
Neighbors saw what was happening and helped the mother beat the dog to get it off the boy, Eggert said.
The pit bull, a 2-year-old named Bear, was impounded this week at the Niagara County SPCA and was said to be going to the Erie County shelter.
Niagara County SPCA Executive Director Al Chille said he’s fielded dozens of calls about the dog, many from out-of-state, and the overwhelming sentiment has been in favor of the dog.
“It’s been, ‘Save the dog, investigate the family,’ ” Chille said.
Eggert said the family has been “very open, very cooperative” with police.
Investigators have conducted several interviews and are working in conjunction with the Niagara County District Attorney’s office to determine if charges will eventually be pressed, but nothing has been determined yet.
The boy continues to recover at Women’s and Children’s Hospital in Buffalo, where he underwent surgery earlier in the week. Eggert said he’s heard the boy is doing better.
The dog, which had been with the family since it was a puppy, was up-to-date on all its shots, including rabies, Eggert said.
Now, investigators are looking at the question on everyone’s mind: What would motivate a family dog with no history of aggression to do something like this?
Behavioral specialists will be brought in to study the dog and try to figure out what triggered the attack.
“Because of the shocking nature of the case, you just want to make sure there’s nothing left unturned,” Eggert said.
Holly Hackmer, a veterinary technician at Brighton-Eggert Animal Clinic in Tonawanda, said she believes the dog may have smelled something in the air that triggered the attack.
“Maybe this dog smelled a female going into heat in the area,” she said. “We see dogs jump through windows, go through doors. They become overly aggressive. It’s the testosterone running through their system.”
Madeline Friedman, owner of Innovative Reality Dog Training and Behavior Consulting in New York City, said the dog could have even smelled something on the child.
Friedman — who prefers to call the incident an “anomaly” instead of a “sexual attack” — said dogs have over 250 million scent detectors in their noses, while humans have only 5 million. Several things could have contributed to the smells in the air that day, including the early-afternoon humidity and the fact that the boy had just removed a dirty diaper.
“Human bodies are always giving off scents,” she said. “For all we know, (the child) may have had some kind of urinary tract infection, which would cause the smell of the child to be really kind of motivating to the dog to explore the scent.”
Friedman said it’s difficult to pin down the dog’s motivation, but it was likely not malicious.
“It appears to be more a misunderstanding of dogs’ senses,” she said. “It is highly unlikely that the dog was motivated by sex-seeking from this child in any way whatsoever.”
The behavior could have even been unconsciously encouraged by the child’s family.
“Maybe the dog sniffed the diaper before, and maybe the parents thought it was funny,” she said.
The incident has sparked furious debate about pit bulls, a breed notorious for aggressive behavior.
A study by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention released in 2000 named pit bulls and rottweilers as the two breeds most often involved in bite-related fatalities.
Sunday’s incident was one of two that day in the city involving pit bulls; a pit bull attacked a Labrador in a Willow Street backyard that same afternoon. In that case, the lab’s owner reportedly had to beat the pit bull will a hockey stick to get it to break the hold it had on his dog’s neck.
On May 24, the Niagara County Drug Task Force was executing a search warrant on a North Transit Street home when the homeowner’s pit bull reportedly lunged at a task force member, prompting the member to shoot the pit bull in his own defense.
In February, a Fox Hunt Drive woman told sheriff’s deputies a neighbor’s pit bull ran out of its hard and bit her dog on the neck.
Though several groups have called for a ban on pit bulls, New York State law prohibits breed-specific legislation.
Chille said people have a natural fear of the breed as it has gained notoriety in recent years. In the last three decades, other dog breeds such as spaniels, rottweilers and German shepherds have received the same attention, he said.
Chille has said the family of the young boy attacked on Sunday wants the dog to be euthanized, but that has not been decided yet.
Friedman said it would be “a shame” if the dog were euthanized.
“It sounds to me like the dog had very little training. If the family doesn’t want to keep the dog, I think the dog could be successfully re-homed,” she said. “It is not my belief this dog is a danger.”
In the meantime, the dog will remain at the SPCA until its fate is decided.
“Unfortunately this happened to be a pit bull,” Friedman said. “I’m wondering, if this had been a goofy yellow Lab, if the outcry would have been the same.”
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I say hell fucking yes.Delicacy said:
At this house we're sticking with cats, thankyouverymuch.
