It's only terrorism if a Muslim does it. Right?

Ulaven_Demorte

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Why is it that the media and the government never calls the “pro-life” groups who plant bombs at women’s clinics what they are: terrorists?


AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- A 27-year-old man has been arrested in connection with a makeshift bomb that was found outside a clinic where abortions are performed, authorities said Friday.

Paul Ross Evans has been charged with use of weapons of mass destruction, manufacture of explosive material and violating freedom of access to clinic entrances, according to a statement issued by the Austin Police Department.

"We've got an ongoing investigation into him and all of his particulars," said Erik Vasys, a spokesman for the FBI. Evans was on parole for a burglary conviction, authorities said.

The bomb was discovered Wednesday, and authorities had asked area abortion providers to be vigilant after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling last week that banned a type of late-term abortion.
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Had that bomb been found outside a post office or a school, the headlines would have been hysterically running on about ZOMG TERRORISM TERRORISM IS AL QAEDA INVOLVED? And the right-wing warbloggers would be pissing their pants and hyperventilating about profiling Arabs and banning Muslims from public life and dhimmitude and how if they had been there, they’d have stopped it with their concealed carry and their extra-super special powers of righteousness, just like they saw in a movie once and BOMB IRAN! and 9/11 CHANGED EVERYTHING!!! but they still have better things to do than join the military, but they’ll be happy to go into the woods and hunt Russians and shout WOLVERINES!!

But it’s an abortion clinic, so. Ho-hum.

For some reason, terrorism doesn’t count if it’s directed against women and their health care providers. It’s just not news, and the fact that it goes unremarked in the national media — and hell, even in the local media, as in the case of the Austin bomb — contributes to the idea that women are not important and that violence directed at women is not only to be expected, but to be dismissed.
 
Meanwhile in Birmingham Alabama...

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Simultaneous raids carried out in four Alabama counties Thursday turned up truckloads of explosives and weapons, including 130 grenades, an improvised rocket launcher and 2,500 rounds of ammunition belonging to the small, but mightily armed, Alabama Free Militia.

Six alleged members of the Free Militia also were arrested by federal authorities and are being held without bond.

Investigators said the DeKalb County-based group had not made any specific threats or devised any plots, but was targeted for swift dismantling because of its heavy firepower. The militia, which called itself the Naval Militia at one point, had enough armament to outfit a small army. …

… The massive operation forced the closing of Collinsville High School on U.S. 11 because of traffic concerns. In Trussville, authorities rented a U-Haul truck to cart away the load of explosives and weapons from a house.

Agents encountered booby traps at one site. They found trip wires and two hand grenades rigged as booby traps at the Collinsville camper home of 46-year-old Raymond Dillard, who holds titles of both militia major and fugitive from justice on an unrelated federal case in Mobile.

“We were prepared,” Cavanaugh said. “We suspect booby traps with these types of groups.”

Arrested and detained in federal custody were Dillard, also known as Jeff Osborne, 46, of Collinsville; Adam Lynn Cunningham, 41, of Collinsville; Bonnell Hughes, 57, of Crossville; Randall Garrett Cole, 22, of Gadsden; James Ray McElroy, 20, of Collinsville; and Michael Wayne Bobo, 30, of Trussville.

None of these people are named Mohammed or al-Something; therefore, they are not terrorists.

Authorities wouldn’t pinpoint a leader, but said Dillard called himself the major. In addition to the booby traps, authorities recovered a long gun and a pistol from his home.

Recovered from Cunningham’s Collinsville home were stolen commercial fireworks, improvised hand grenades, fuse assemblies and a half-dozen guns. At Hughes’ Crossville home, agents found 100 improvised hand grenades, 70 improvised hand grenades fired from the 37 mm rocket launch, a submachine gun and two silencers.

An SKS rifle was found at McElroy’s home.

In Jefferson County, authorities said they had to rent a truck to handle the bomb-making material from Bobo’s home, as well as 2,500 rounds of ammunition and 12 guns.

The 30-year-old Bobo still lives with his parents and works for their pest-control company. Why am I not surprised?

But it’s a real relief to find out these guys aren’t Muslims, huh? Otherwise they might be dangerous or something.
 
They're not terrorists. They're protecting the sanctity of human life, by blowing people up.
 
Darla_Darling said:
They're not terrorists. They're protecting the sanctity of human life, by blowing people up.

Ahh, see? It is alright.

What's on NASCAR?
 
The real Major Dillard was a Confederate Quartermaster during the Civil War. He was chiefly responsible for the Columbus arsenal, and did very well at it.
 
vetteman said:
Did they discover a terrorist motive, or plot?

There's obviously a motive. And it was an attempted act of terrorism (bomb).
 
RoryN said:
There's obviously a motive. And it was an attempted act of terrorism (bomb).

Of course it wasn't terrorism.

Dropping off a package of explosives and nails is an act of love obviously. Isn't that like the 20th anniversary gift? hmm.. first is paper.. so somewhere around 30 years or so is explosives and nails. :rolleyes:
 
Domestic Terrorism...I believe that Timothy McVeigh's bombing was where the term was used over and over again..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was a decorated Army veteran who subsequently was convicted of eleven federal offenses and ultimately executed as a result of his role in the April 19, 1995, Oklahoma City bombing. He is commonly referred to as the Oklahoma City bomber. The bombing, which claimed 168 lives, was the deadliest act of terrorism in U.S. history until the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center in New York, and remains the deadliest incident of domestic terrorism in United States history.


There...I repeated it....


Happy now?







http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Robert_Rudolph


Eric Robert Rudolph (born September 19, 1966), also known as the Olympic Park Bomber, is an American anti-abortion extremist and domestic terrorist

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00002331----000-.html

(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.




I'm waiting for the "Blame Bush" clarification.....




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vetteman said:
They could have been a bunch of paranoid rednecks, gang members, KKK, etc., dummy. We have Hells Angels out here armed with the same kind of shit but they aren't being pursued as a terror organization, they are being pusued as organized crime.

Your backpedaling bullshit might actually fly, had you not been responding to the post about the abortion clinic attempted bombing.

Nice try, no cigar.
 
vetteman said:
They could have been a bunch of paranoid rednecks, gang members, KKK, etc., dummy.

It's still terrorism.

vetteman said:
We have Hells Angels out here armed with the same kind of shit but they aren't being pursued as a terror organization, they are being pusued as organized crime.

They're terrorists.
 
Ulaven_Demorte said:
Why is it that the media and the government never calls the “pro-life” groups who plant bombs at women’s clinics what they are: terrorists?


AUSTIN, Texas (AP) -- A 27-year-old man has been arrested in connection with a makeshift bomb that was found outside a clinic where abortions are performed, authorities said Friday.

Paul Ross Evans has been charged with use of weapons of mass destruction, manufacture of explosive material and violating freedom of access to clinic entrances, according to a statement issued by the Austin Police Department.

"We've got an ongoing investigation into him and all of his particulars," said Erik Vasys, a spokesman for the FBI. Evans was on parole for a burglary conviction, authorities said.

The bomb was discovered Wednesday, and authorities had asked area abortion providers to be vigilant after a U.S. Supreme Court ruling last week that banned a type of late-term abortion.
Link

Had that bomb been found outside a post office or a school, the headlines would have been hysterically running on about ZOMG TERRORISM TERRORISM IS AL QAEDA INVOLVED? And the right-wing warbloggers would be pissing their pants and hyperventilating about profiling Arabs and banning Muslims from public life and dhimmitude and how if they had been there, they’d have stopped it with their concealed carry and their extra-super special powers of righteousness, just like they saw in a movie once and BOMB IRAN! and 9/11 CHANGED EVERYTHING!!! but they still have better things to do than join the military, but they’ll be happy to go into the woods and hunt Russians and shout WOLVERINES!!

But it’s an abortion clinic, so. Ho-hum.

For some reason, terrorism doesn’t count if it’s directed against women and their health care providers. It’s just not news, and the fact that it goes unremarked in the national media — and hell, even in the local media, as in the case of the Austin bomb — contributes to the idea that women are not important and that violence directed at women is not only to be expected, but to be dismissed.
Wow. And I was just told that this doesn't happen any more. :rolleyes:
 
vetteman said:
If it was your small, narrowly focused, brain wouldn't be able to figure it out, that's for sure. You are such a fucking idiot.

Considering the source.. :rolleyes:

Trying to feel insulted.. trying..

Nah, can't do it.

Now keep backpedalling. You questioned a terrorist motive or plot in an attempted women's clinic bombing.

Like thats not a terrorist act. You're part of the problem.
 
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vetteman said:
If it was your small, narrowly focused, brain wouldn't be able to figure it out, that's for sure. You are such a fucking idiot.
The attempted bombing was politically motivated. That's as pure a definition of terrorism as you can find, retardo.
 
Tungwagger said:
Domestic Terrorism...I believe that Timothy McVeigh's bombing was where the term was used over and over again..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh

Timothy James McVeigh (April 23, 1968 – June 11, 2001) was a decorated Army veteran who subsequently was convicted of eleven federal offenses and ultimately executed as a result of his role in the April 19, 1995, Oklahoma City bombing. He is commonly referred to as the Oklahoma City bomber. The bombing, which claimed 168 lives, was the deadliest act of terrorism in U.S. history until the 9/11 attack on the World Trade Center in New York, and remains the deadliest incident of domestic terrorism in United States history.

There...I repeated it....


Happy now?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Robert_Rudolph


Eric Robert Rudolph (born September 19, 1966), also known as the Olympic Park Bomber, is an American anti-abortion extremist and domestic terrorist

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/18/usc_sec_18_00002331----000-.html

(5) the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—
(A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

I'm waiting for the "Blame Bush" clarification.....

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It's nice that wikipedia calls those two Domestic terrorists.

I was speaking about the public media and reports from law enforcement. They cringe at calling US citizens terrorists even when it is unquestionable. The attempted bombing of the women's clinic in Austin was covered in a single paragraph on AP that wasn't even picked up by local papers for several days. The AP expanded it's story by several more paragraphs after someone was picked up and charged.

It should have been all over the national news. If the same thing had happened at a post office or government building it would have been page one on every single national news service in the country.

But it was "just an abortion clinic".
 
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Ulaven_Demorte said:
Quite possibly the stupidest thing I've ever seen you post.

Nice work.

vetteman said:
If it was your small, narrowly focused, brain wouldn't be able to figure it out, that's for sure. You are such a fucking idiot.

Nice transition into a personal attack there Vette.

If you'll notice, I attacked your post, your idea. I didn't call you stupid or a fucking idiot, though on reflection I could have. Probably would have had I thought you were going to resort to a childish tantrum.

Learn to separate your self from your ideas, or fall into the same category as Ish and A_J.

If it's not too late already. :cool:
 
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