Aurora Black
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McKenna said:
I agree.
Prostitution: the job for you?
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I agree.
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I can also become emotionally engaged, and then disengage.
Very key skill. It's not about being distancey or otherwise. It's about being to move in and out of other people's spaces and then when they're no longer in my space, not feel separation anxiety.
I rarely meet someone I can't find something in common with, empathize with, understand. I enjoy doing this. I wouldn't be distant, I'd be deeply engaged, and then not.
I think people put far too much value judgment on sex and emotion. Somehow if it's there at all it has to be eternal. I am the sexual and emotional ice cream cone. I'm not eternal. Get it while it lasts. Then it can be over. Or if I do develop a lasting attachment, that's okay with me. I like lasting attachments, they're not painful.
Very key skill. It's not about being distancey or otherwise. It's about being to move in and out of other people's spaces and then when they're no longer in my space, not feel separation anxiety.
I rarely meet someone I can't find something in common with, empathize with, understand. I enjoy doing this. I wouldn't be distant, I'd be deeply engaged, and then not.
I think people put far too much value judgment on sex and emotion. Somehow if it's there at all it has to be eternal. I am the sexual and emotional ice cream cone. I'm not eternal. Get it while it lasts. Then it can be over. Or if I do develop a lasting attachment, that's okay with me. I like lasting attachments, they're not painful.
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The reason why I couldn't become a prostitute is because I would hate not being able to pick and choose whom to fuck. If I'm not horny for a guy, I don't have sex with him. I don't care how much money he's offering.
Sex is holy.
Sex is holy.
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this is a bit like a barber saying 'the bad thing is that it's just not the same when i cut my kids hair, anymore.'
many pros have boyfriends or girlfriends with whom they have sex--i.e., sex for fun, 'normal sex,'. these have no reason to be jealous of any customer.
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//Think of the movie: All was well and good when they thought of it as "just a fuck." But when the husband started obsessing about it, wondering if it were more than a fuck, he basically pushed his wife into the millionaire's arms. The thought of it being more than a sexual encounter drove him nuts.//
my impression is that it certainly *was* more than a ho's fuck; she said she enjoyed it. if you will recall, Redford, turned down her early invitation to fuck and agree to be wined, dined, and romanced. in a sense it was--or became-- like a 'date.'
many pros have boyfriends or girlfriends with whom they have sex--i.e., sex for fun, 'normal sex,'. these have no reason to be jealous of any customer.
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//Think of the movie: All was well and good when they thought of it as "just a fuck." But when the husband started obsessing about it, wondering if it were more than a fuck, he basically pushed his wife into the millionaire's arms. The thought of it being more than a sexual encounter drove him nuts.//
my impression is that it certainly *was* more than a ho's fuck; she said she enjoyed it. if you will recall, Redford, turned down her early invitation to fuck and agree to be wined, dined, and romanced. in a sense it was--or became-- like a 'date.'
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3113 said:Working on a story that involves a...paid escort...and I got to thinking about legalized prostitution and Heidi Fleiss' stud farm.
So now I'm curious: Assume prostitution is legalized. It's not some desperate, illicit activity where pimps are needed to protect the whores from being hurt by their johns, and/or get them out of jail. Instead, it's nice and clean, a real job complete with health insurance and retirement benefits. You can legally be a solo operator, or, to better protect yourself from crazies, be part of a brothel. You can advertise--you don't need to stand out on a street corner.Hi 3113,
Actually, the need for street pimps is way long OLD. The only prostitutes on the street (very unfortunately) these days are junkies or crack addicts or people without their meds. Johns, or pimps are business men and not quite like you picture, although they do take a greater cut than they are worth, but there are advertising concerns these days, internet, photography, papers and of course, drivers and gas prices. All the extra money is yours and that means it depends what you owe your agent for various business things - cell phones and pagers included, but at the end of an hour, a girl does walk home with about (I think 150) if they are a 200 - 250 worker). You ask who would do it? From those I have met, a lot of actresses/actors and models - yes - even Ford models and Uni students and strippers.
Reasons? It gives the space/freedom to audition for other things. Money to become a lawyer and put yourself through school without debt. It gives opportunity to make a lot of money to go to "THOSE" places where you will be seen as a model or actress. Yet, there are some who also want to be porn stars, and it can be a good CV item.
Also, having talked to many of these girls, they will refuse to give certain things that they do not want to do (just as a Dominatrix will) and may well go to another agency if one E-runner tells them they have to do it. "Escorting" is much more competative than you think.
Many girls have up to ten a day in a good agency.
Anyhow, any other questions you can PM - I was not a prostitute, but have had the pleasure of meeting many different types in my line of work, even having them to dinner as friends, and when I see what you have written, I see sterotyping.
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Recidiva said:
yes!
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CharleyH said:Hi 3113,
Actually, the need for street pimps is way long OLD. The only prostitutes on the street (very unfortunately) these days are junkies or crack addicts or people without their meds. Johns, or pimps are business men and not quite like you picture, although they do take a greater cut than they are worth, but there are advertising concerns these days, internet, photography, papers and of course, drivers and gas prices. All the extra money is yours and that means it depends what you owe your agent for various business things - cell phones and pagers included, but at the end of an hour, a girl does walk home with about (I think 150) if they are a 200 - 250 worker). You ask who would do it? From those I have met, a lot of actresses/actors and models - yes - even Ford models and Uni students and strippers.
Reasons? It gives the space/freedom to audition for other things. Money to become a lawyer and put yourself through school without debt. It gives opportunity to make a lot of money to go to "THOSE" places where you will be seen as a model or actress. Yet, there are some who also want to be porn stars, and it can be a good CV item.
Also, having talked to many of these girls, they will refuse to give certain things that they do not want to do (just as a Dominatrix will) and may well go to another agency if one E-runner tells them they have to do it. "Escorting" is much more competative than you think.
Many girls have up to ten a day in a good agency.
Anyhow, any other questions you can PM - I was not a prostitute, but have had the pleasure of meeting many different types in my line of work, even having them to dinner as friends, and when I see what you have written, I see sterotyping.
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Prostitution in Australia is not illegal in itself in most of the States and there are innumerable small brothels, single operaters, massage parlours , and even one corporate brothel listed amongst the small caps.Virtually every suburb in Sydney has prostitution services available locally and they all advertise in the local newspapers .
I have done quite a lot of research work with prostitutes and can attest that they are drawn from almost every class and condition in society.Two former students of mine from fairly orthodox middle class backgrounds both worked 2 or 3 shifts a week in a massage parlour to pay their way through university.
The commonist characteristic of most (but not all) of them was not very interesting .As a group they have a strong tendency to be extremely lazy and do not like work of any type.
Prostitution in Australia is not illegal in itself in most of the States and there are innumerable small brothels, single operaters, massage parlours , and even one corporate brothel listed amongst the small caps.Virtually every suburb in Sydney has prostitution services available locally and they all advertise in the local newspapers .
I have done quite a lot of research work with prostitutes and can attest that they are drawn from almost every class and condition in society.Two former students of mine from fairly orthodox middle class backgrounds both worked 2 or 3 shifts a week in a massage parlour to pay their way through university.
The commonist characteristic of most (but not all) of them was not very interesting .As a group they have a strong tendency to be extremely lazy and do not like work of any type.
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ozymandiask said:The commonist characteristic of most (but not all) of them was not very interesting .As a group they have a strong tendency to be extremely lazy and do not like work of any type.
LOL - give me a break. They work HARD(core) for their money.
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ozymandiask said:Prostitution in Australia is not illegal in itself in most of the States and there are innumerable small brothels, single operaters, massage parlours , and even one corporate brothel listed amongst the small caps.Virtually every suburb in Sydney has prostitution services available locally and they all advertise in the local newspapers .
I have done quite a lot of research work with prostitutes and can attest that they are drawn from almost every class and condition in society.Two former students of mine from fairly orthodox middle class backgrounds both worked 2 or 3 shifts a week in a massage parlour to pay their way through university.
The commonist characteristic of most (but not all) of them was not very interesting .As a group they have a strong tendency to be extremely lazy and do not like work of any type.
See? I told you it was perfect for me!
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3113 said:
I chose to post this under my other name to protect the innocent: (IE those who associate with me on the boards as well as those who know me in r/l)
I worked as a paid escort for a little less than 5 years. At first, I did it because I needed money quickly and then it became sort of habitual. I knew if I had to, one or two phone calls would put a couple hundred in my hand for what boiled down to a few minutes work.
Granted, while I was doing this sort of *work*, I also had a regular job, children to take care of and a home to run. My children had no idea...I just told them I was going on *dates* and the timing was completely random enough that no further explanation was ever needed. (Alot easier to hide than stripping or starring in pornos).
My mind set made it completely possible for me to enjoy going out and having sexual congress with people I really didn't know. Sex for it's own sake..not to be confused with love, emotional attachment or anything else. I never felt much during the actual act of sex...besides a mild pleasure in a job well done afterwards. Even now (years later) I still don't consider sex to be something that means much in the way of intimacy...Intimacy to me is talking, sharing time, kisses, cuddles.
I know this is a kind of rambling post, but this thread caught my attention and I just wanted to put my 2 cents worth in...
Thanks.
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Thank you so much for sharing that. Honestly. It was very good of you to come out (sic) and answer the question. I imagine a lot of others wouldn't take the time or want to even under the fairly anonymous situation we have here.brattybytch said:
That was very enlightening and helpful. And very much appreciated.
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I think like stripping and adult films, it wouldn't necessarily be a "career", and it would attract the same sort of people who work in those job markets, with a wider range thanks to the safety and less risk of arrest.3113 said:
If it was legal and there was a market for it, I would have considered straight prostitution in my college years. I can't imagine doing it now, nor maintaining a steady relationship while doing so.
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