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Would you ever take part in a drug trial for money?

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Drug trial ignored guideline on safety
By Nigel Hawkes, Health Editor



DRUG trials that left six healthy volunteers fighting for their lives did not conform to best medical practice, The Times has been told.
Senior doctors expressed concern that all six were given the same dose of the experimental drug TGN1412 at the same time. According to the standard medical text, trials of this sort should avoid giving all the doses simultaneously. The Textbook of Pharmaceutical Medicine specifically gives warning that such practices can be “very difficult to manage” and “put subjects at unnecessary risk”.



Last night the Medical and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency was urgently investigating what went wrong in the the trials, as families kept up a vigil at the patients bedsides. It is trying to determine whether it was a fault in production, contamination or more likely an intrinsic problem with the drug itself.

“They haven’t got a cure,” said Myfanwy Marshall, whose boyfriend fell ill 90 minutes after taking the drug. “This is a drug they have never tested on humans before so they don’t know what they are dealing with. It’s completely messed up their vital organs.”

There was confusion last night about whether the drug had been tested successfully on animals before the tests on human volunteers.

“They [the drugs company] said there was an oversensitivity in monkeys,” Ms Marshall said. She went on to say that in the tests a “dog and some animals had died . . . so they reduced the amount to humans”.

Thomas Hanke, chief scientific officer of TeGenero, last night refused at a press conference to say whether animals had died during earlier tests. “There has been no issue on the safety of the drug on animals. This is not relevant,” he said. He said the drug had been tested on mammals but not dogs or rats.

He said that the company had apologised to relatives of the six ill volunteers. “We are devastated at these shocking developments which we were not anticipating. The investigation must proceed as quickly as possible (into) the testing of a new medicine which showed no signs of any safety problems in previous testing.”
 
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i'd risk my essendon bombers baseball cap.

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human drug testing... this is what prisioners serving life sentances would be good for. Obviously the program would have to be optional, but I'm sure they would like the extra cash at their disposal.
 
Would you ever take part in a drug trial for money?

Had to do one in Fed. court for free. Santa looking guy was smugling coke across border, said it wasn't his & didn't know anything about it. He walked :confused:
 
I had a girlfriend that used to participate in those all the time; that was about 15 years ago, & I think she usually made about $500-1000 per study. She never had any bad experiences that I know of, hell, many of the times she'd only get the placebos while others in the group got the test drugs. Trying to think of who she did them for ...Parke-Davis, maybe?

...but, umm, No -I wouldn't!
 
just pet said:
Would you ever take part in a drug trial for money?
"All were healthy young men who had volunteered for the first human trials of a new arthritus drug, developed in Germany."

I'm not sure what they hoped to learn about an arthritis drug using healthy young men to test it. Wouldn't you need someone with arthritis to see if it worked?

To answer your question, maybe. I'd participate in a drug trial for free if it was a drug I thought might help me with an illness that didn't have a cure available. Cancer, for example. Lots of cancer patients become guinea pigs when there is no other hope for them but experimental drugs. I'd do that if it was an option.

For money? Probably not. I don't need the money. I'd do it for my health only.
 
There are a number of people here at Lit who I would be willing to risk if I could make some $ off it.
 
As a nurse, I am well aware of the toxicity of current anti-inflammatory drugs (Celebrex et al) and antibiotics (like Cipro) where the cure can be far worse than the disease. As they build bigger and better, the adverse effects become more and more severe.
In hospice we discontinue many drugs for our patients and we see them improve, and extend lives and comfort.
Our pharmaceuticals are often complicating and shortening our lives.

Drug trials are becoming more and more life threatening.
 
What is the benefit of running all six tests at one time? Especially after the primates were overly sensitive and dogs may or may not have died during tests

I read the thread title here and ran to the bank to get three grand. One can always hope Ms. pet will get wild and earn three big ones.
 
SaintPeter said:
What is the benefit of running all six tests at one time? Especially after the primates were overly sensitive and dogs may or may not have died during tests

I read the thread title here and ran to the bank to get three grand. One can always hope Ms. pet will get wild and earn three big ones.


I would think she can get three big ones for free anytime it suited her.
 
There is alot I know I could do with £3k ($5256).. the questions are more, how much time would it take up? How far would I have to travel? Etc. etc.

With £10k someone could make some more serious money and/or change the course of their life, I'd risk my life in a more obvious way for that, russian roullette, whatever.

What I don't get is the point in animal testing if they're not going to take notice of it.. the animals die.. back to the drawing board, surely?
 
Why would anyone do that? I could never understand that unless its a drug that cures a disease where there is no cure.....
 
Taltos said:
There are several litsters I suspect have participated in experimental drug trials in the not so distant past.
I dont think she was talking about cocain or X
 
I reside in a university town that is also home to the world's largest(?) manufacturer of generic drugs. Drug studies are a growth industry here, and the compensation is good.

Me? Oh hell no! Any prescription drug has potential adverse affects - I'd rather roll the dice in a nicely appointed room with short skirted women serving me free drinks. The payoff isn't guaranteed, and neither is my liver, but I don't end up as a one line entry in a PDR: "Side effects include fulminating facial and anal string warts.".
 
Cheyenne said:
"All were healthy young men who had volunteered for the first human trials of a new arthritus drug, developed in Germany."

I'm not sure what they hoped to learn about an arthritis drug using healthy young men to test it. Wouldn't you need someone with arthritis to see if it worked?

To answer your question, maybe. I'd participate in a drug trial for free if it was a drug I thought might help me with an illness that didn't have a cure available. Cancer, for example. Lots of cancer patients become guinea pigs when there is no other hope for them but experimental drugs. I'd do that if it was an option.

For money? Probably not. I don't need the money. I'd do it for my health only.

the first set of tests (phase 1 clinical trials) don't test whether the drug works---they are primarily to test safety and sometimes dosage. that's better done in younger, healthier patients
 
i don't know how things work in germany but if this happened in the US it would be likely that some of the pharma execs would go to jail for this
 
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