Free Will or bullshit?

Matthew Craig said:

Christians find answers for everything though.

"Why did my doggy die daddy?"

"Because God doesn't like you anymore Suzy. I'm sorry."

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mansome said:

you can't have it both ways.........

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mansome said:

on one hand.. if God does intervene and can change people's lives... He's one cruel mother fucker for letting more children die every day in Africa of Aids than were killed during the entire Sunami last year...... and he's a cruel mother fucker for allowing the torture and suffering in the Jewish holocaust..... I could go on with the list.........

on the other hand.... if he's just to be there for a figurative pillar of guidence and strength.... as the bible and christian leaders are to be used as a guide and for counseling.....

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mansome said:

Then how do you explain the miracles of the bible and the destruction of places like Sodom and Gamorra? or Why people need to pray to have things better in theirs and others lives if God has nothing to do with the outcome?

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mansome said:

Definitely a paradox here.....

I've found out that many christians either don't believe in the bible or don't use it as any type of a guide for how they live their life...... Why is that?

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mansome said:

For the Christians out there... do you believe God gave man total free will with only the hope of being with god in heaven... Or Do you think that God intervenes in the course of human events and geographical/meterological changes..........?

Because you can't have it both ways.........

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The Heretic said:

Yes we can.

We can (and do) have free will - i.e., the ability to make choices. Just because someone else has control of circumstances doesn't mean we can't make choices.

Even just plain humans often have control over other people's circumstances - this doesn't make them God, or take away the free will of the people in those circumstances - it just makes the circumstances they encounter different.

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mansome said:

on one hand.. if God does intervene and can change people's lives... He's one cruel mother fucker for letting more children die every day in Africa of Aids than were killed during the entire Sunami last year...... and he's a cruel mother fucker for allowing the torture and suffering in the Jewish holocaust..... I could go on with the list.........


I've found out that many christians either don't believe in the bible or don't use it as any type of a guide for how they live their life...... Why is that?

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mansome said:

I've found out that many christians either don't believe in the bible or don't use it as any type of a guide for how they live their life...... Why is that?

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RoryN said:

One of the reasons that preachy religious types are so annoying is because they're the embodiment of a broken record, specifically when trying to make a case for their view being the right one by discrediting atheists and others.

Most atheists I know personally take great pride in not emulating this behavior. But you seem to embrace it, and that's disappointing.

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breakwall said:

I don't believe in an intervening God, so naturally everyone has "free will".

However, saying that, I'm secure enough in my beliefs that I can allow everyone else to have their own beliefs.

Mansome, your threads all sound the same: "I don't believe in God, but I'm scared that I might be wrong. Therefore if I shout and yell loud enough that there is no God, I just might convince myself it's true."


Good luck with that.

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mansome said:

I'm not an atheist.... I follow no prescribed dogma....

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mansome said:

*shrugs*

I'm very secure in my beliefs.........

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RoryN said:

Whether you're an atheist or not is inconsequential. Are you going to address my assessment, or dodge it?

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RoryN said:

You spend a lot of time on here trying to discredit forms of religion. That tells an intelligent person that you're not secure in your beliefs at all.

The same is true for those who spend all their time preaching to others.

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RoryN said:

You spend a lot of time on here trying to discredit forms of religion. That tells an intelligent person that you're not secure in your beliefs at all.

The same is true for those who spend all their time preaching to others.

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mansome said:

I'm use to christians pushing their beliefs down my throat.. what's wrong with me making a few comments on an erotic website?

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RoryN said:

So, being a hypocrite and emulating their bad behavior is the right way to respond?

Your comments, then, are in the context of personal weakness. Perhaps you should step down and let someone else take the soapbox - that is, if you really care about the topic you're discussing. My guess is you don't; you only care about your own self-validation.

Go ahead; make my case for me. Or don't.

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mansome said:

I'm quite clear on what I believe in..... no validation needed here...
if you want to attempt to discredit me that's fine also....

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mansome said:

I'm quite clear on what I believe in..... no validation needed here...

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restlessnights said:

Why do you hang out on a porn board if all you want to talk about is Christianity?

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