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bg23

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We are all hypocrites. Some in a small and vague way, others with thunder and lightning. Get over it as it is a question of semantics, not morality.

i thought this was an interesting comment.
i've been thinking about it for a while, and i'm not sure i agree.
i'd be interested in your views.
 
One thing that annoys me beyond a doubt is hypocrisy. And because of that I rty to stay as consistant as possible in what I say and what I do. Sometimes I slip up, but don't we all sometimes?
 
Hypocrisy is a terrible, terrible thing.

Except when I do it.
 
bg23 said:
i thought this was an interesting comment.
i've been thinking about it for a while, and i'm not sure i agree.
i'd be interested in your views.


You know, cutie, I do love how your minds works
 
I think there is a bit of hypocrasy (sp?) in all of us. People have good days and bad. (This was your question?).
(sorry, too lazy to check my spelling)
 
just pet said:
You know, cutie, I do love how your minds works

it's not what it looks like.

i swear.

...

okay, maybe just a little.
 
We are all hypocrites. Some in a small and vague way, others with thunder and lightning. Get over it as it is a question of semantics, not morality.


I agree with the premise of the statement. I might argue a few of the 'semantics'.

What part of the statement is disagreeable to you, ms. bg?
 
LOST&FOUND said:
One thing that annoys me beyond a doubt is hypocrisy. And because of that I rty to stay as consistant as possible in what I say and what I do. Sometimes I slip up, but don't we all sometimes?
I agree with this statement, not with the one quoted in the original post. Some people are trying, and others aren't. Maybe it is a matter of degree, but degree matters, as well as intent.
 
Malachi said:
I agree with this statement, not with the one quoted in the original post. Some people are trying, and others aren't. Maybe it is a matter of degree, but degree matters, as well as intent.
true. degrees and intent are important.
 
erosman said:
I agree with the premise of the statement. I might argue a few of the 'semantics'.

What part of the statement is disagreeable to you, ms. bg?

the part where i am told to "get over it."

to me, hypocrisy is a form of self contradiction.

if one condemns a certain action, then sets about committing it oneself, that is hypocrisy, and in my eyes, you will certainly lose a great deal of credibility.

in the same manner that somebody who lies and then is caught in the lie will lose credibility, i believe that hypocrisy is something akin to dishonesty.

yes, i believe we are all hypocrites in some manner.
i also believe we are all liars in some manner.
this does not make lying acceptable, nonetheless.
 
We are all hypocrites. Some in a small and vague way, others with thunder and lightning. Get over it as it is a question of semantics, not morality.

Don't agree at all. This statement shows me the speaker or writer does not know the meaning of semantics.

The first two sentences I agree with. But it truly is a question of degree. I mean, as humans we are all flawed. Controlling the degree of those flaws are what we should strive to do.

I think we all agree that hypocrisy is bad. But just like lying there are many times where it does little harm. While other times the results can be devastating. It is a matter of degree.
 
Malachi said:
I agree with this statement, not with the one quoted in the original post. Some people are trying, and others aren't. Maybe it is a matter of degree, but degree matters, as well as intent.

True, degree and intent matter quite a bit. Sometimes it is hard and sometimes it is easy. It has a lot to do, at least for me, with what ever I am dealing with at the time.
 
bg23 said:
i thought this was an interesting comment.
i've been thinking about it for a while, and i'm not sure i agree.
i'd be interested in your views.
I agree with your disagreement. As others have pointed out, degree and intent is important. Dismissing severe hypocrisy as just semantics is making an excuse for it.
 
bg23 said:
the part where i am told to "get over it."

to me, hypocrisy is a form of self contradiction.

if one condemns a certain action, then sets about committing it oneself, that is hypocrisy, and in my eyes, you will certainly lose a great deal of credibility.

in the same manner that somebody who lies and then is caught in the lie will lose credibility, i believe that hypocrisy is something akin to dishonesty.

yes, i believe we are all hypocrites in some manner.
i also believe we are all liars in some manner.
this does not make lying acceptable, nonetheless.



I think that foxy asks a relevant question: Whose quote is it?

We are all hypocrites. Some in a small and vague way, others with thunder and lightning. Get over it as it is a question of semantics, not morality.
And, what is the context?

I have heard a very similar statement in arguments between someone who is complaining about hypocrites and the person who said something very near to what is in the above quote. In other words, let him who is without sin cast the first stone.

I think that mr.sinister's remark regarding degrees is along those lines, although I think he is talking a more black and white clarity. For me, hypocrisy runs the full spectrum from black to white, with lots and lots of grey thrown in for good measure. I think complaining about hypocrisy is something to 'get over'. I don't think that vindicates it, though.
 
real life is full of hypocrisy so i don't think you can actually be fair and balanced unless you are willing to engage in a bit of hypocrisy every now and then
 
We are all hypocrites. Some in a small and vague way, others with thunder and lightning. Get over it as it is a question of semantics, not morality.

It sounds like a hypocrite's cop-out to me. I'd expect this to be said by someone who just proved themselves to be a hypocrite.

I agree that we're all hypocrites to some extent, but that "question of semantics, not morality" stuff is bullshit, IMNSHO.

If I want to call a spade a spade, I will. See my sig line for an excellent example. :cool:
 
i would not usually do this, take a quote out of context and ask you to analyse it, but in this case, it really bothered me.

in the first place, i have a tendency to regard hypocrisy with disfavour.

in the second place, i hate it, and i do mean HATE it, when people throw the line, "it's just semantics" around without paying attention to what the phrase actually means.

it is my pet peeve.

the quote can be found here
 
foxy said:
Never mind, I've answered my own question. Credit where credit is due :)

Metrodance has a point, in my opinion. There's a bit of hypocrisy in us all.

I agree with his proposal that it is indeed a flaw that we all have.

But our collective possession of such a flaw does not, I think, render it harmless.

I agree with the other posters in that it is about degree.

In either case, I will always regard somebody who exhibits blatant hypocrisy as having a certain lack of credibility.
 
bg23 said:
in the second place, i hate it, and i do mean HATE it, when people throw the line, "it's just semantics" around without paying attention to what the phrase actually means.

I agree. That phrase has been so overused and misused that it has become trite. I think any good communicator should just avoid using it. The writer in your case misused it.
 
foxy said:
So, do you tell your best friend (assuming there is one) that her hair looks great, if it doesn't? Do you tell your partner's mother that you like the meal she's just cooked even if it sucks? If you're having a crap day, do you tell the shop assistant who has just asked how you are how you really feel?

And before you get all hair-splitty about the examples, my question is this -- have you ever told a white lie to save someone's feelings, or to save time or trouble?

If so, welcome to the world of hypocrisy. And in cases like that, yes, in my opinion, it is about semantics, not morality.
All the examples are 'white' lies, not hypocrisy. Hypocrisy would be if you told your little lies and expected other people not to.

I don't care much for white lies either, but that's a different topic.
 
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