Dear Arnold Schwarzenegger

You guys probably don't know that I quit public teaching and just do private work due to them limiting hours to prevent having to provide benefits. I can't live with just thirty hours a week.

gypsywitch said:

eh hem... no I did not vote for Arnie

I vote Green Party whenever its most wise

Camejo would have been a great govenor

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If you had been an intelligent voter you would have voted against the recall.

In other words, you made your bed, now sleep in it and quit whining.

Green Party . . . yeah, that is a well informed voter.

The 19th Amendment was a dumb idea

LovingTongue said:

I voted for McClintock knowing full well that this shit was all coming.

Dear Schwarzy voters: Remember, I TOLD YOU SO? I said right here on Lit that Arnie was a fraggin LIAR and that this would come to pass, and no one listened...

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Arnie or McClintock, either way, ignorance in action.

Clearly you take your freedom of speech seriously. Yielding such power can be a daunting task at times.

gypsywitch said:

Clearly you take your freedom of speech seriously. Yielding such power can be a daunting task at times.

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as evidenced by your Green Party comment

Hahahahaha! You have Arnie as your governor! What did everyone think was gonna happen?
Sorry about the whole school thing though. I mean that. It's hard enough without even lower budgets and fewer programs.
Let this be a lesson to you all. You should have elected that porn star. Or Gary Coleman. Hell, even Larry Flynt coulda done a better job.

Fuzzywumpus said:

I shudder to think the someone with such a lack of perspective actually teaches our children. Lets do the math. The Democrats have had control of California government for how many decades and YOU blame Arnie for the failure of the school system. Another math question for you is if the funding for schools have increased by 2 Billion from last years budget, how is that a cut. Maybe it is not such a big surprise that our educational system is as bad as it is.

With attitudes like "We need all the funding and support possible if schools and education are to survive.", the system will continue to fail because your interest is not in fixing the problem, you just want to throw more money at it.

One has to ask themselves, when education is the singlemost largest item in the budget and the Teachers Union are constantly complaining that they dont have enough money, and the academic level is at an alltime low, What have they done with all the money that had? How much money are you willing to flush down the toilet before you figure out that that wont fix the hole in the pipe?

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Bottom line is we're NOT getting paid enough! OK. That's why all the best people that ARE qualified have left the profession. Hey, if Microsoft offers me a starting package at $80,000/year, SEE YA! That's why the education system is at an all time low! You want to keep qualified people to teach your kids, then PAY them enough, so that we can actually afford to buy a house, the American Dream! Or maybe even afford a car!. That's why I said that the system, meaning the unions and the administrators have turned the school system into the Enron of education! YOU do the math...I'm not the one throwing the money away. I'm the one having to buy my own school supplies for my class...By the way, I've been teaching for 15 years!

WhiteCheech said:

Arnie or McClintock, either way, ignorance in action.

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McClintock was far more credible than any other candidate and most importantly... he was honest about what he could and could not do.

There is only one place in California where Arnold belongs ..........



























HOLLYWOOD

People on either side who obscure the facts embarrass themselves

http://www.latimes.com/la-me-budget6jan06,1,2683145.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

The facts are that California has a budget crisis.

The facts are that AS has proposed a budget that will INCREASE education 7% - a smaller increase than was planned but calling it a DECREASE of whatever billion is an absolute joke. More money will be spent on education next year than this year.

All we ask is for either side to stick with the facts.

AS is an extremely liberal republican - saying that he equals Reagan just exposes you as an intellectual fraud . . . I could care less whether you like AS but he is so much more liberal than Reagan - a comparision equating the two is so weak I can no longer take you seriously. Quit taking the easy way out.

Is there no one with me who is tired of the b.s. from both "democrats" and "republicans"? - not everything in the world fits in to one of two columns.

Both parties in the US be damned

ImSinister said:

AS is an extremely liberal republican - saying that he equals Reagan just exposes you as an intellectual fraud

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You mean "fradulent intellectual".

You're dismissed; go sit in the corner. And he's not liberal at all - it's a front, as anyone with a bit of sense knows.

RoryN said:

You mean "fradulent intellectual".

You're dismissed; go sit in the corner. And he's not liberal at all - it's a front, as anyone with a bit of sense knows.

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Well, one can debate the term "liberal" all day but saying he equals Reagan is a joke. He is far left or Ronnie. And I wager to say that he is "liberal" compared to most republican's these days. Truth be told, most democrats don't pass the true liberal test these days.

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KRCummings said:

Hahahahaha! You have Arnie as your governor! What did everyone think was gonna happen?
Sorry about the whole school thing though. I mean that. It's hard enough without even lower budgets and fewer programs.
Let this be a lesson to you all. You should have elected that porn star. Or Gary Coleman. Hell, even Larry Flynt coulda done a better job.

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I agree entirely. I have to admit that I was completely fooled. I thought for sure that the majority of the people were smart enough to vote against the recall. Then to compound matters by electing someone that couldn't even have lines containing words that had more than 2 syllables a few years ago, and expect him to be able to read a fucking law and be able to make an intelligent self analysis frightened me.

I blame it on the transplants to CA. A native should know better.

Raimondin said:

By the way, I've been teaching for 15 years!

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Then whether or not I agree with you, I respect you.

When my kids were in grade school I used to volunteer twice a week for a couple hours each day helping out in the class, first by working with kids that were slow, or had missed school due to illness.

Eventually, I arranged for my employer, GTE, to give the school a $1,500 grant which they put towards buying equipment for a computer lab. I installed it, then taught the kids (and teachers) to use them.

It was quite satisfying.

RoryN said:

You mean "fradulent intellectual".

You're dismissed; go sit in the corner. And he's not liberal at all - it's a front, as anyone with a bit of sense knows.

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if that is your pic in your avatar, you are too young to remember Reagan, so why don't you stick to things you would be more familiar with, like New Kids or Britney?

Arnold is much more liberal than Ron was.

ImSinister said:

http://www.latimes.com/la-me-budget6jan06,1,2683145.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

The facts are that California has a budget crisis.

The facts are that AS has proposed a budget that will INCREASE education 7% - a smaller increase than was planned but calling it a DECREASE of whatever billion is an absolute joke. More money will be spent on education next year than this year.

All we ask is for either side to stick with the facts.

AS is an extremely liberal republican - saying that he equals Reagan just exposes you as an intellectual fraud . . . I could care less whether you like AS but he is so much more liberal than Reagan - a comparision equating the two is so weak I can no longer take you seriously. Quit taking the easy way out.

Is there no one with me who is tired of the b.s. from both "democrats" and "republicans"? - not everything in the world fits in to one of two columns.

Both parties in the US be damned

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I totally agree. That is not a REAL decrease. It is a decrease in the already planned INCREASE.

We were just calling Ishmael out on this kind of stupid math and as you have proven the term "education cuts" is in this case another example of Ishmaelian math, I hereby distance myself from it.

I voted NO on the recall btw. There were plenty of problems before Arnie and its a multi-faceted series of solutions that are going to have to take place to fix any of it.

Anyone having children now needs to really seriously consider what kind of planet you are forcing them to live on. Survival has always been tough for whatever reason though. Every generation since time began has had their own battles to face either from nature or bad leaders, and usually both.

WhiteCheech said:

if that is your pic in your avatar, you are too young to remember Reagan, so why don't you stick to things you would be more familiar with, like New Kids or Britney?

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My father worked for governor Reagan up until 1975 while he was a member of a certain county's Human Rights Commission (I won't name it here, but think northern California, and think "mecca of marijuana"). He'd previously had a minor run-in with the would-be governor when Reagan was sticking his nose in HUAC's business. Reagan didn't much care for black atheists (i.e. my father). My dad was no shrinking violet in the matter, either; he was high-profile enough to get a grilling from Roy Cohn.

At some point, they had a confrontation, one which my father really doesn't like giving the details on. But he'd been upset with Ronnie for a long time. Reagan authorized the use of a type of gun for crowd control here in California at a demonstration that hadn't been used in years, and my father felt it was above and beyond the firepower necessary to subdue hippies (previously, my father, a psychologist, had also been to cities to help city officials understand "mob mentality", including Newark and Chicago during their riots in the 60's).

The two met to discuss a recent bill Reagan had passed dealing with education (a subject dear to my father's heart), and words were exchanged. My father asked Reagan to justify the bill to him. Reagan's response was something akin to, "Well, when I was a young boy, I had this hatchet...". My father's response to that included the phrase, "you dumb son of a bitch". Needless to say, it didn't rub Reagan the right way.

The end result was that my father was pretty much blacklisted from working in the state of California. Every state job interview he went to would go reasonably well until someone at the governor's office would give the powers-that-be a phone call and, mysteriously, the position would become "filled". My dad took a temporary position in Massachusetts as a professor, it turned permanent, I grew up in MA, and have now settled back in SoCal.

So, you're right. I know nothing about Reagan. Thanks for putting me in my place.

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The art of Wielding power and the art of Yielding power are two different things.

Having the power to YIELD or prevent miss-use of the freedom of speech is sometimes wiser than WIELDING that power in such an ugly fashion.

There really are constructive ways to discuss these things without the negativity. That just comes across as more reason to have concerns for people who consider themselves proud Republicans or whatever they're claiming to be.

If your ideals and opinions were expressed more constructively they could have the real power of generating thoughts on the concepts you're trying to impress upon us. Being disrespected by an ugly American makes me not care what they had to say at all.

RoryN said:

So, you're right. I know nothing about Reagan. Thanks for putting me in my place.

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My dad used to work on Mack trucks . . . does that make me some kind of expert on Mack trucks?

WhiteCheech said:

My dad used to work on Mack trucks . . . does that make me some kind of expert on Mack trucks?

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I'd venture to say that, if you've had conversations with your dad on the subject, you probably know more about Mack trucks than I do.

And, using that logic, I'd venture to say that I probably know more about Reagan than you do. So, it's ill-advised to say I know nothing of the man just because of my age.

Your one-sentence response is enough satisfaction for me. You messed with the bull and got the horns this time.

RoryN said:

I'd venture to say that, if you've had conversations with your dad on the subject, you probably know more about Mack trucks than I do.

And, using that logic, I'd venture to say that I probably know more about Reagan than you do. So, it's ill-advised to say I know nothing of the man just because of my age.

Your one-sentence response is enough satisfaction for me. You messed with the bull and got the horns this time.

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Hooo-wah

Now a SPECIAL ELECTION?!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/06/13/state/n110750D72.DTL

If you don't hear from me for a few weeks its because I'm busy moving to New Zealand!

gypsywitch said:

Now a SPECIAL ELECTION?!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2005/06/13/state/n110750D72.DTL

If you don't hear from me for a few weeks its because I'm busy moving to New Zealand!

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I'm getting married, damn it, I can't be sitting here looking at your AV...

LovingTongue said:

I'm getting married, damn it, I can't be sitting here looking at your AV...

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Oh like marriage or potential marriage ever stops anyone from looking.

Thanks for changing your sig somewhat.