Climate change, earthquakes and tsunamis, oh my!!

I will use small words so that you intellectually challenged progressives might possibly understand.

I am a businessman...after years and years of working, I have accumulated an amount of surplus capital and I wish to invest it and hope to make a profit on my investment.

Now I know profit is a six letter dirty word to you, but hold your nose and use your mind; nobody works for free, not even you.

First, I must locate a potential mining site, take a chance and lease or buy the land, I actually negotiate for the lowest possible rent or purchase price on the unproven land which may or may not contain sufficient product to return the money I invested just to try to discover a valuable resource. Now that I have access to the land, I must bribe government with permits and license fees and a hundred other envirnomental requirements before I can even begin to explore and search for a coal vein.

But, of course, I must have proper equipment, another huge investment of capital and consider or acknowledge that not a penny is earned and will not be until I actually begin producing product.

Then, of course, the biggest investment of all, hiring a labor force to begin the process of mining. I have a 'nut' to crack, that of the initial investment in land, leases, permits, bribes to the government, equipment and now hiring people to work, which is the largest cost in any business, your work force. That I have to insure them is another cost factor, accident insurance,health insurance, paid vacations, sick leave, time off and workers who come to the job impaired with drug or alcohol addiction. So far I have invested a large sum of capital and thus far, not a penny is coming back.

It may be months or years before I am producing any product at all and yet my costs continue, day after day, month after month and my equipment is always subject to break downs or failures, which means costly down time, and a certain percentage of my workers, statistically, are late, don't show up for work, sleep or drink on the job or fail to perform their jobs. Safety is one of my major concerns, not because of rules and regulations, but because accidents andinjuries cost both time and money to resolve and it is in my best interest to use maximum safety procedures to keep my operation functioning.

Although I may have secured a contract with a buyer to purchase my product, the market fluctuates daily and my accountant informs me of the amount and quality and quantity of my product that I must produce each day to just cover the costs of servicing the loans I have taken out to conduct the operation and meet payroll, withholding taxes and continual maintenance on my equipment.

Then, of course, I must rent or create transportation routes, roads or rail, to move my product to market, added costs of doing business that factor in to what I must charge for my product just to cover the costs of doing business.

It will be years before i ever begin to produce enough product to begin to show a profit on my investment and the typical return on capital investments are usually below ten percent, supermarkets operate with a two to three percent net profit margin, other types of business strive for a ten percent return, but very few manage even that and that is all before taxes, which are assessed at every stage of the operation, including my personal income and that of the corporation I have formed to do business under State and Federal laws.

It will take years, between five and ten years, before I can recoup my origninal investment and actually begin to show a profit from my gamble.

I must utilize every method of efficiency and continuity; I never get a day off and am on call 24/7 as it is my baby and it lives or dies, prospers or falters according to my dedication and constant nurturing.

Government of course, has none of those worries or concerns. Government does not have to make a profit, indeed most government operations operate at a loss, subsidized by public tax payers and since they have no skin in the game, it doesn't matter if they succeed or fail or produce shoddy or unsafe products.

The mere act of participating in business as an owner inherently builds character in the individual and is transmitted to all who participate at all levels; it is a moral and ethical process by nature, requiring integrity, productive work, timely and punctual work habits, logistics, supplies ordered ahead of time and delivered on top, equipment that functions each and every time and honesty in dealing with all those on site and off and all suppliers, all buyers and all workers, plus adjacent land owners, all requiring ethical and moral social interactions and intercourse.

The end result is the production of a needed commodity, the production of jobs, the establishment of a viable company or corporation and, if one is marginally successful, a paycheck for the owner, satisfying the loan obligations and expanding the efforts of all involved.

Such is the innate and inherent beauty of capitalism, the free market system, where each and every participant is free to come and go at their own choice and to learn, advance and expand the abilities of each worker to be more productive in a foreman or management capacity, all of which also contains a moral and ethical factor in dealing with both subordinates and those for whom one works.

Government enterprise and government workers have no such incentives and by definition, produce inferior products that cost more to produce and only the bureaucrats profit as they steal from the enterprise to fill their own profits without ever lifting a finger in real work, and usually without any knowledge of the actual mechanics of whatever industry they infest.

Take that to the bank.

Amicus Veritas:rose:

So, let's get this straight, shall we. You were a 'businessman' for years doing nothing productive with your life, other than making money off of other people's labour. Now that you've got some money, you want to invest it and have other people work and sweat for your 'profits'.

Exactly what part of parasite didn't I get right? And you call this Capitalism? Slavery comes to mind. Sweatshops come to mind. Capitalism is just a fancy word for "I'm a lazy cunt and want to make money off of your sweat and blood'

A real day of labour would fucking kill you. Go back to diddling little girls and enjoy your dillusional fantasies and leave real life to those who know what it's all about. Pseudo-intellectualism is a bad thing to wield in the minds of the feeble, like you Ami.

The world is not about making money to see who has the most at the end of it all, although that's what you think. We pity fools like you, but never suffer them.
 
As those of you who have a slobbering love affair with the tenets of socialism, but never defend it intellectually or morally, you are left with dispensing vindictive hatred towards the free market and America in general.

That is not surprising as socialism or any of its' bastard children, cannot be defended rationally.

More and more on this forum are taking note of your abject failure to do anything but whine and complain.

C'mon, be brave, defend your faith!

Amicus Veritas:rose:
 
Put very simply, it is:

"
From each according to his ability
To each according to his needs​
"

Then everyone gets to chip into the central pot for things like the Government, Military, etc., and those on a very low income, get some help when they need it.
 
"
From each according to his ability
To each according to his needs​
"

What!!!

Three and a half cents from my paycheck is going to go into life-saving cardiac surgery for my neighbor's kid??

Fuck that noise!!



(ami will give us a redo and make it sound intellectual...wait for it...)
 
What!!!

Three and a half cents from my paycheck is going to go into life-saving cardiac surgery for my neighbor's kid??

Fuck that noise!!



(ami will give us a redo and make it sound intellectual...wait for it...)

That three-and-a-half cents might also be your life-saving operation.
 
One may volunteer to contribute whatever portion of one's income to any program you see fit. In the United States, our fundamental authority given government is to protect the sovreignty of the nation with a military, which we are obligated to pay for, and to finance a police and court system to protect our rights and properties. That is the basic essence of our concept of a small, limited and controlled government.

I understand that many of you feel that government should provide a wider variety of services to the population, but ours is a limited form of government which I happen to support intellectually, with responsibility of caring for one's own individual circumstances left to the individual and his associations and dipersal of his wealth on his own terms.

Morally, I associate individual responsibility for one's own circumstances as the only means of developing individual independence and personal responsibility. in other words, mature, adult behavior.

Authorizing the government to look after your personal needs dictates that you forever remain a dependent child.

Amicus Veritas:rose:
 
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One may volunteer to contribute whatever portion of one's income to any program you see fit. In the United States, our fundamental authority given government is to protect the sovreignty of the nation with a military, which we are obligated to pay for, and to finance a police and court system to protect our rights and properties. That is the basic essence of our concept of a small, limited and controlled government.

I understand that many of you feel that government should provide a wider variety of services to the population, but ours is a limited form of government which I happen to support intellectually, with responsibility of caring for one's own individual circumstances left to the individual and his associations and sipersal of his wealth on his own terms.

Morally, I associate individual responsibility for one's own circumstances as the only means of developing individual independence and personal responsibility. in other words, mature, adult behavior.

Authorizing the government to look after your personal needs dictates that you forever remain a dependent child.

Amicus Veritas:rose:

You are so full of shit your feet are brown.

By your own admission, you've never paid taxes so you support nothing but your own lame self.

Try this bullshit on someone who doesn't know better.
 
I served my country for eight years of active duty; I paid the taxes that went to support the legitimate, constitutional functions of my government. I will not pay any taxes to support you and your welfare class of parasites.

Amicus Veritas:rose:
 
I served my country for eight years of active duty; I paid the taxes that went to support the legitimate, constitutional functions of my government. I will not pay any taxes to support you and your welfare class of parasites.

Amicus Veritas:rose:

Like I said, you suppot only you so you don't support anything.

This thread was started as a joke and you bite hook, line, and sinker.

So I'm welfare class. The jokes on you as usual.
 
America. Land of the free, home of the brave.

Wonderful words that mean shit in the reality of things. Free enterprise is just a fantasy. Go ahead and design a machine that produces free energy. Your Capitalist system will see you dead before it even gets announced. The big corps. won't stand for it. Take their money away? Give power to the common man without paying for it? Never going to happen.

Your country was built on slavery, fought and lost hundreds of thousands of its people to defend slavery. Once it was abolished, the powers that be governed blacks through segregation. It took bleeding heart Liberals to protest and allow integration. The gov't didn't give a shit about everyone's right to pursue happiness. You only had happiness if they gave it to you. If you looked too happy, you were questioned and investigated for illegal acts. McCarthy anyone?

Gold. There's another wonderful event in American life. In 1931-32, FDR made it a LAW, that the common man wasn't allowed to own gold. If you did, you were jailed. How quaint.

Lets move up to that wonder of nature, Ronnie Regan. In 1971, he took the Amer. dollar off the gold standard and its been a downward spiral into the shitter ever since. If you take a look at the Fed. Reserve graphs that show the intrest owed, to the value of the dollar, it's as clear as the underaged girl you molest, that it bottoms out in 2012. OMG, shades of Nostradamus and Mayan prophesy coming true.

You can continue to delude yourself on what a great country you live in, Ami, but the reality of things, is that America is losing the battle on every front except one, poverty. Even Canada has a lower unemployment rate and has weathered through in stability, where B.O. is pulling out all the stops to make sure there is no chance of Economic recovery.

By 2012, it'll be Canada and the other free socialist countries that have to put out billions of dollars to bail out America, just like the EC is doing now.

Hard to run a country based on slips of paper with funny looking guys on them and base them on nothing.

Join the rest of the smart people and move to Canada. Big business loves it up here. Come dip your feet in our precious Oilsands you love so much. We are the richest resource country in the world, bar none. If we wanted to be like you Americans, we'd charge you through the nose for your oil, just like the Arabs do. But no, we let you take what you want, good neighbours that we are. But fuck anyone else if they want that cheap oil. You're already bitching to us to keep the Chinese out of Alberta and keep their hands off YOUR precious commodity.

The difference between your idea of capitalism and socialism, is that we want EVERYONE to be happy and live a full and rich life, not just a select few who wave a few phoney bucks around and profess to be better than everyone else.

God Bless America, everyone else thinks it sucks. I'd never want to live in a country that privatizes incarceration to make a profit. Throwing millions in jail for smoking a joint and then after 3 strikes, they're in for life. How lovely. God bless Harry Anslinger and his lifelong quest to be the biggest fuck-up the world has ever seen.
When the country was in the '31 Depression and half the people were starving and looking for work, your wonderful gov't spent
1.3 BILLION dollars to combat Marijuana smokers, instead of aiding its people to recover. Now it's up to 250 BILLION to combat it. And all of this based on lies the gov't told you.

The rest of the world stopped listening to what America had to say a long time ago, now we aren't listening to you, Ami. You represent the cause for class discrimination and slave labour. Get out from behind your 'Talking Head" desk and stop believing the crap that's put before you to read. The world is completely different from what you think it is and once you get your pathetic, weak ass self into the trenches with 'real' people, your eyes will open.
 
RoyceConners, what a total load of bullshit, from beginning to end...do you really believe all that crap?

Thanks to freedom in the land of the free and the home of the brave, whale oil was replaced by petroleum products, and yes the whalers whined to high heaven. The horse and buggy trade went to hell in a handbasket when the automobile hit the road and typewriters died when the computer keyboard was invented....you are such an asshole from all aspects and I suspect all the mirrors in your abode are blacked out.

Negro slavery was rampant world wide because they are so fucking intellectually deprived they were sold by their own people to anyone who would buy; blame it on evolution, but who gives a fuck, you are so stupid.

The precious metal standard of value is a complex issue...in my novel, I suggest returning to a gold standard, but the mechanics of such a change may be more difficult than the benefits that might acrue.

America is and always has been a work in progress, but I would happily stack it up, point by point with your command societies anywhere in history and we would still be that shining city on the hill that every human in every country to this day yearns to belong to.

Fuck you and all your socialist buddies....

Amicus...the American
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

This is your American dream. Come to grips with the reality of it.

You are the descendant of people who didn't like being told they couldn't be or do what they wanted to. They came to America and set up shop so they could. But rather than practice what they preached, they destroyed a way of life for the indigenous peoples who were here thousands of years before they even knew they wouldn't fall off the edge of the earth.

You killed them, drove them off their lands, denegrated them to a life of misery, all in the name of capitalism. Reservations are a crime against humanity, yet you justify it in the name of progress.
Fuck natural resources, exploit them for all they're worth so you can make the almighty dollar and future generations be damned. Fucking tree-huggers, kill them. They stand in the way of progress and the American Dream of being rich at any cost.

You've had your head filled with so much sludge, from being a talking head all your life, you wouldn't know reality if it came up and fucked you in the ass.

Name one thing I stated as false, just one. You can't, because everything is factual and documented beyond reproach. You live in a fantasy world of make-believe and think your shit is going to save the day. Guess what? Don't come crying to the rest of the world when your economy bottoms out and your country isn't worth shit.

China is buying you up lock, stock and barrel. Your so-called freedom and right to pursue happiness will be governed by a Communist society. Learned Mandarin or Cantonese yet, dickhead?

And one more thing, learn how to spell properly. If you want to be taken seriously, it goes a long way in establishing credibility. My name is Royce Connors, not Conners. That, and other spelling and grammatical errors have made you look like the Fucktard you are.

I'll be happy with my societal democracy that allows everyone the chance to live a good life. We don't leave anyone out of the Canadian Dream. Can't say that about your's now, can you?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrgpZ0fUixs

This is your American dream. Come to grips with the reality of it.

You are the descendant of people who didn't like being told they couldn't be or do what they wanted to. They came to America and set up shop so they could. But rather than practice what they preached, they destroyed a way of life for the indigenous peoples who were here thousands of years before they even knew they wouldn't fall off the edge of the earth.

You killed them, drove them off their lands, denegrated them to a life of misery, all in the name of capitalism. Reservations are a crime against humanity, yet you justify it in the name of progress.
Fuck natural resources, exploit them for all they're worth so you can make the almighty dollar and future generations be damned. Fucking tree-huggers, kill them. They stand in the way of progress and the American Dream of being rich at any cost.

You've had your head filled with so much sludge, from being a talking head all your life, you wouldn't know reality if it came up and fucked you in the ass.

Name one thing I stated as false, just one. You can't, because everything is factual and documented beyond reproach. You live in a fantasy world of make-believe and think your shit is going to save the day. Guess what? Don't come crying to the rest of the world when your economy bottoms out and your country isn't worth shit.

China is buying you up lock, stock and barrel. Your so-called freedom and right to pursue happiness will be governed by a Communist society. Learned Mandarin or Cantonese yet, dickhead?

And one more thing, learn how to spell properly. If you want to be taken seriously, it goes a long way in establishing credibility. My name is Royce Connors, not Conners. That, and other spelling and grammatical errors have made you look like the Fucktard you are.

I'll be happy with my societal democracy that allows everyone the chance to live a good life. We don't leave anyone out of the Canadian Dream. Can't say that about your's now, can you?

Ah, Canada, the land of the moocher. Where everyone lives off the producers. The great white north where half the population wishes they were in France! or at least a French Colony!

What a load of crap! I have only met one Canadian with any balls and she immigrated to the UK. So, I guess she didn't have any at all.
 
Ah, Canada, the land of the moocher. Where everyone lives off the producers. The great white north where half the population wishes they were in France! or at least a French Colony!

What a load of crap! I have only met one Canadian with any balls and she immigrated to the UK. So, I guess she didn't have any at all.

Well, that explains a lot, Zeb. The one woman you knew had balls. Perhaps a little sex ed would have helped you out.

You might try a math course, too, or at least get your demographic data correct. Some economics, too. But then, it's always easier to just shout out your received half-truths and personal prejudices.

But don't worry, we don't include everyone in the Canadian Dream; in fact, it can be quite an exclusive reverie. We didn't have much in the way of Indian Wars, but we've matched you in dispossession and denigration. We abolished slavery long before you, and pride ourselves on being the final destination in your "Underground Railway," but that last stop on the line was always in scrubland or shantytown far from white folk...
 
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Ah, Canada, the land of the moocher. Where everyone lives off the producers. The great white north where half the population wishes they were in France! or at least a French Colony!

What a load of crap! I have only met one Canadian with any balls and she immigrated to the UK. So, I guess she didn't have any at all.


Zeb, vous et votre ami, Ami, ont beaucoup en commun. Vous êtes deux aussi ignorants comme un chèvre mort. Qui a effectivement fait sensé, car vous étiez deux engendrés par un chèvre mort. Le durable cadeau de votre père qui explique tout cela est syphilis neurologique de naissance.

 
Zeb, vous et votre ami, Ami, ont beaucoup en commun. Vous êtes deux aussi ignorants comme un chèvre mort. Qui a effectivement fait sensé, car vous étiez deux engendrés par un chèvre mort. Le durable cadeau de votre père qui explique tout cela est syphilis neurologique de naissance.


Tsk, tsk, mon compatriot! Nous, les Canadiens, sont tres gentile; don't be so harsh to these nice neighbours of ours.
 
Ah, Canada, the land of the moocher. Where everyone lives off the producers. The great white north where half the population wishes they were in France! or at least a French Colony!

What a load of crap! I have only met one Canadian with any balls and she immigrated to the UK. So, I guess she didn't have any at all.

Mooch? Off of who? America? We want or need nothing from you. We are completely self-sufficient and have the ability to produce products of greatly superior quality than the US. Proof? Your own Air Force pilots have made it a fact that we can take your planes and do a bit of Canadian know-how on them and they all agree our planes are better than the originals you made. Let's not even discuss the Avro Arrow. 50 yrs. old and it would still best most of what's out there.

Mooching? What do you call all the American oil companies mining our Oilsands? Where's your oil? Gone or soon to be. You are jealous of our society and all our programs that allow our people to live in relative comfort. I wonder if it's a law in the US, like Canada has, that no one is allowed to starve. No one is allowed to be sick. That's such a horrible way to live, isn't it. Much better if we just shove them aside like you do, so they aren't a burden on your precious society and way of life.

One thing is abundantly clear, America puts the value of money, before the value of life. And when your dollar isn't worth the paper it's printed on? Who ya gonna call? Us? We're just moochers.

America is a facade of a crumbling infrastructure underneath. You can keep slapping a coat of whitewash over it, but eventually all you'll have left is whitewash and that just won't wash, no matter how well you paint.

The US keeps falling lower and lower in the world rankings in every field, yet you continue to profess how great you are.

As for your 'democratic' way of life, let me see if I have this right. You elect someone to govern, but if one or more people don't like what he's doing, you assisinate him. So, as long as whoever is elected complies with the wishes of the big corps., he'll be able to serve out his term and maybe if you're Dub-ya, you'll get to do it twice.

Yup, God Bless America and its people.
 
Ah, Canada, the land of the moocher. Where everyone lives off the producers. The great white north where half the population wishes they were in France! or at least a French Colony!

What a load of crap! I have only met one Canadian with any balls and she immigrated to the UK. So, I guess she didn't have any at all.

Half the population French? Get your stats right. Half the population is now ethnic, coming mostly from China and India. They have no desire to speak French, or want to be French. We have parlez-vous Francais, because we honour those who came and settled here and made Canada the Great White North that it is. We honour all who came and made the effort to be better, not just the English speaking.

BTW, exactly what is the language spoken in a large part of Louisiana? Notre Dame is what? The Fleur d' Lis is what?
 
Mooch? Off of who? America? We want or need nothing from you. We are completely self-sufficient and have the ability to produce products of greatly superior quality than the US. Proof? Your own Air Force pilots have made it a fact that we can take your planes and do a bit of Canadian know-how on them and they all agree our planes are better than the originals you made. Let's not even discuss the Avro Arrow. 50 yrs. old and it would still best most of what's out there.

Mooching? What do you call all the American oil companies mining our Oilsands? Where's your oil? Gone or soon to be. You are jealous of our society and all our programs that allow our people to live in relative comfort. I wonder if it's a law in the US, like Canada has, that no one is allowed to starve. No one is allowed to be sick. That's such a horrible way to live, isn't it. Much better if we just shove them aside like you do, so they aren't a burden on your precious society and way of life.

One thing is abundantly clear, America puts the value of money, before the value of life. And when your dollar isn't worth the paper it's printed on? Who ya gonna call? Us? We're just moochers.

America is a facade of a crumbling infrastructure underneath. You can keep slapping a coat of whitewash over it, but eventually all you'll have left is whitewash and that just won't wash, no matter how well you paint.

The US keeps falling lower and lower in the world rankings in every field, yet you continue to profess how great you are.

As for your 'democratic' way of life, let me see if I have this right. You elect someone to govern, but if one or more people don't like what he's doing, you assisinate him. So, as long as whoever is elected complies with the wishes of the big corps., he'll be able to serve out his term and maybe if you're Dub-ya, you'll get to do it twice.

Yup, God Bless America and its people.

Yeah, just think were almost down there in the bottom of the barrel with you! You do know you guys are the butt of jokes around the world, don't you?
 
Yeah, just think were almost down there in the bottom of the barrel with you! You do know you guys are the butt of jokes around the world, don't you?

We are? really?
And the Ugly American jokes stopped when?

As for the bottom. you do realize that our dollar is worth more than yours? Despite our best efforts to keep ours below yours, you guys suck so bad, we couldn't in all honesty de-value ours to compete. So remember that when you want to come up here some time, that your country is getting close to 3rd world status. Pretty soon the Peso will be at par with the Yankee dollar.

And God made the American on his 8th day, as he realized that his creation of man needed humour in his life.
 
We are? really?
And the Ugly American jokes stopped when?

As for the bottom. you do realize that our dollar is worth more than yours? Despite our best efforts to keep ours below yours, you guys suck so bad, we couldn't in all honesty de-value ours to compete. So remember that when you want to come up here some time, that your country is getting close to 3rd world status. Pretty soon the Peso will be at par with the Yankee dollar.

And God made the American on his 8th day, as he realized that his creation of man needed humour in his life.

You are an ass aren't you! Of course you are.

And then GOD create Royce and said to the heavens above - "This shall be known as the ass of humanity, for out of this orifice shall come nothing but shit!"
 
Yeah, just think were almost down there in the bottom of the barrel with you! You do know you guys are the butt of jokes around the world, don't you?

Top 30 on United Nations Human Development Index Ranking

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/best-country-live-list-countries-2009-un-hdi

1. Norway
2. Australia
3. Iceland
4. Canada
5. Ireland
6. Netherlands
7. Sweden
8. France
9. Switzerland
10. Japan
11. Luxembourg
12. Finland
13. United States
14. Austria
15. Spain
16. Denmark
17. Belgium
18. Italy
19. Liechtenstein
20. New Zealand
21. United Kingdom
22. Germany
23. Singapore
24. Hong Kong, China (SAR)
25. Greece
26. Korea (Republic of)
27. Israel
28. Andorra
29. Slovenia
30. Brunei Darussalam


Bites....doesn't it....

At least you're ahead of Slovenia....
 
You are an ass aren't you! Of course you are.

And then GOD create Royce and said to the heavens above - "This shall be known as the ass of humanity, for out of this orifice shall come nothing but shit!"

Hate facing the truth thrown in your face, don't you, Ugly American.

Come on, bring your tanks and guns and come take our country over and make us all good Americans. I know you want to. You got the bomb and just dying to push the button.

Ugly American, Ugly American, nah, nah, nah nah, nah. neener neener neener.

That's about the same mentality you just showed us. Grow up Zeb and face facts, you suck. Your people had an idea and ran with it. Sorry about your luck, that it didn't work out. We ran with ours and all we need is a little fine tuning. Hate to be wrong, don't you? Thought you guys had the best game on the block and now you're finding out it wasn't so good after all.

Guess you shouldn't have made greed the basis and foundation of your value system.

Uhmmmm, God looked to the heavens above? So God is an American?
OOOOH, say can you see.....
 
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Just as an humorous aside in my work in progress novel, I am going to have the Muslims take over Canada, send in our boyscouts to rescue your Prime Minister and then begin the long task of weaning you off your Whale Blubber diet and sending some decent American Cock your way to increase the waning and wimpy population.

:)

the always affable amicus...:rose:
 
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